As a former AHJ many requests, all denied with I agree it's silly but it's the 
law.  

As a former contractor wanted to make such requests but never did because it's 
not compliant with the law.

As a current consultant would only make such request if specifically instructed 
by the client over my clearly documented objections. (with the hope the AHJ 
would back the law)

And I don't think one can put a 52,000 sq.ft. aux dry system off a 52,000 
sq.ft. wet system as an example.  The combined systems are still limited to 
52,000 sq.ft.  So adding a control valve and flow switch at the additions off 
the existing isn't going to help.

As any role would suggest if you can easier cut off 6,000 sq.ft. near the riser 
and turn that into its own system.  Avoids the long run and then add the new 
6,000 to the end.  

Chris Cahill, PE*
Senior Fire Protection Engineer
Aviation & Facilities Group
Burns & McDonnell
P:  952.656.3652
F:  952.229.2923
[email protected]
www.burnsmcd.com
*Lic. in MN


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 52,000 square feet

Greg,
I think that option two would be ok.  It seems that it's ok to have an 
auxiliary dry system off the end of a wet system, so an auxiliary wet system 
should work as well.



Bob Knight, CET III
208-318-3057
www.firebyknight.com



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: 52,000 square feet

We have a school that is getting 2 small additions at the end of the wings of 
approx. 6,000 and 3,000 sqft respectively. If we tried to tie on to the end of 
one system to feed the larger addition, that system would be approximately 
56,000 sqft. Th other two options (I guess) would be to run 250' of 3" back to 
the main riser and create a new system for this addition, or use it for both 
additions with another 300' or so of main, or maybe to put in a new control 
valve and flow switch at each addition to supply them.
I am not sure if the second option would meet the intent of the code and I am 
too confused to figure this out this early in the year.

The other addition appears to be on a system that is already about 53,000 sqft 
and adding the addition would also put it around the 56,000 mark.

Has anybody ever asked for a variance on something like this? It honestly 
doesn't make any sense to put it in a separate system (other than to meet
code) because the operation of the system will not actually be effected.
Especially in the way these systems are shaped, there are several different 
fire rated zones of much smaller area.

Happy New Year and thanks,

--
Greg McGahan
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC <http://www.livingwaterfp.com>
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
fax 850-937-1852
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