I believe they are better for structural protection because they put the fire 
out better than old style.  No better structural fire protection than no fire.  
So it's not directly better structural protection.  Keep an object wet and it 
won't fail.  It takes surprisingly little water to keep something cool.  Take a 
look at window sprinklers for example.  Take a look at a firefighter wetting a 
propane tank or the neighbor's house during a fire.  There are many stories of 
firefighters getting caught and putting the hose on themselves a survive 
unharmed.   

Chris Cahill, PE*
Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group
Burns & McDonnell
8201 Norman Center Drive
Bloomington, MN 55437
Phone:  952.656.3652
Fax:  952.229.2923
[email protected]
www.burnsmcd.com

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*Registered in: MN




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:18 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: old-style sprinkler applications?

NFPA 13 2007 8.15.15.3 allows old style sprinklers "where construction features 
or other special conditions require unique water distribution."

Has anyone come across such a situation?

For example:
I have a building where there is some structural steel passing through a 
non-combustible, non-accessible, mechanical shaft (that was previously 
un-sprinklered). For whatever reason, they feel like it will be extremely 
difficult to get fire-proofing onto the steel, so the architect suggested using 
old-style sprinklers to protect the roof structure and steel below (since they 
spray up and down). It was my understanding that standard spray sprinklers are 
used now specifically because they work better at protecting the structure 
above them (and better at attacking the fire), but I wanted to double check. 
Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
Sales Engineer
Alliance Fire Protection
130 w 9th Ave.
North Kansas City, MO 64116

*Licensed in KS & MO

913.888.0647 ph
913.888.0618 f
913.927.0222 cell
www. AFPsprink.com

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