In the UK we commonly use conventional sprinklers (old style) for most 
applications and these are widely available from all of the major suppliers: 
Tyco, Viking, Reliable, etc. Conventional sprinklers are abbreviated to CU/P 
(conventional upright or pendant) and can be used in either orientation. From 
memory in the upright orientation the water distribution is approximately 40% 
up 60% down but spray heads are 80:20 (I'm sure someone will have exact 
details). 

Regards,

Spencer Allen 



On 29 Feb 2012, at 17:07, "Cahill, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I also meant to add sprinklers for structural fire protection need to be 
> carefully considered.  One little shaft maybe not a big deal.  You need to 
> compare the differences.  Everything working correctly as designed, 
> sprinklers are better IMHO.  But traditional structural protection is present 
> when the sprinklers are off for whatever reason.  And we all know sprinklers 
> get turned off for both legitimate reasons plus the ooops, and deliberate 
> malicious acts.  No one turns off spray on protection, yes they might chip 
> away at a small portion to hang something for example.  I for one have never 
> been completely comfortable with sprinkler alternatives to rated components, 
> including window sprinklers.  Now I'm talking about when a building requires 
> sprinklers and ratings.  I'm all for trading off all the structural 
> requirements for sprinklers as we do in many small and low buildings.     
> 
> Chris Cahill, PE*
> Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group
> Burns & McDonnell
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:18 AM
> To: '[email protected]'
> Subject: old-style sprinkler applications?
> 
> NFPA 13 2007 8.15.15.3 allows old style sprinklers "where construction 
> features or other special conditions require unique water distribution."
> 
> Has anyone come across such a situation?
> 
> For example:
> I have a building where there is some structural steel passing through a 
> non-combustible, non-accessible, mechanical shaft (that was previously 
> un-sprinklered). For whatever reason, they feel like it will be extremely 
> difficult to get fire-proofing onto the steel, so the architect suggested 
> using old-style sprinklers to protect the roof structure and steel below 
> (since they spray up and down). It was my understanding that standard spray 
> sprinklers are used now specifically because they work better at protecting 
> the structure above them (and better at attacking the fire), but I wanted to 
> double check. Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
> Sales Engineer
> Alliance Fire Protection
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