Save the owner money by adding the sprinklers at a fair price, it's not your fault the GC is being unreasonable. I take it the "dead areas" not open on top to the area with the CC2's? Seems like the GC should get on board, maybe call them a future pipe chase or fill with insulation. What does the AHJ want?
Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CC2/ RESIDENTIAL - AREA INCREASE Small areas (under 10sf) that are framed out to make the tub / shower fit. We have CC2 sprinklers in the combustible rated ceiling space above but nothing figured for these dead areas. The GC will not call these pipe chases because they do not contain pipe even though there is a rated floor above and below. He either wants them to have a sprinkler, be filled with insulation, or pick up 3000SF design area. We agreed to put sprinklers in the larger ones but many are only about 1.5 SF and it doesn't make sense to install them here. Looking to add about 100 heads per floor (4 stories) and we are trying to find options to save the owner money. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CC2/ RESIDENTIAL - AREA INCREASE Just curious. If the CC2 is being used in the combustible concealed space why would the 3000 sqft rule be an issue? Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 6:44 AM To: SprinklerFORUM Subject: CC2/ RESIDENTIAL - AREA INCREASE NFPA 13 (02ed) section 11.2.3.1.8 (3) Does the 3000 SF area increase of this section apply to CC2 and residential sprinklers? I know NFPA 13 2010 provides some guidance but this AHJ follows 2002. Thanks, Dewayne Martinez Design Build Fire Protection 262-784-7900 (w) 262-784-8401 (f) 414-349-0468 (cell) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attach ments/20120315/b91ccfc6/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
