Don't leave out the AHJ's that approve a drawing without reviewing because it's stamped. We have a job now where a PE with a nationally known FP Consulting firm calculated a square remote area at the low point of a butler building with a 2/12 pitch roof. It's approved and permitted.
Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Latest act of stupidity Because some sprinkler contractor will do the job ! AHJ's get away with this sort of thing beacuse someone will always go along. History just keeps repeating itself. John Drucker - Mobile Email ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Thu Mar 15 13:07:28 2012 Subject: RE: Latest act of stupidity It's amazing how one person's poor decision making automatically lumps all who have degrees and badges into the same pool. Its good thing were not a judgmental society. Todd Letterman Fire Prevention Engineer CFPS Riverside County Fire Department "Fire never sleeps" (951) 955-5273 FAX (951) 955-4886 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Latest act of stupidity Because Ron, a gold badge or a basic engineering degree legally declares someone smarter. Nuff said. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Latest act of stupidity Funny. Did you point out that this was a life-safety system designed to provide life-safety only protection in a structure built to and designed as a typical stick-frame building with typical residential room contents and furnishings, not standard strip mall construction with business layout and furniture configurations? Why do these guys become smarter than the experienced committee members as soon as the Wizard gives them a gold badge or a basic engineering degree? On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > I got a call from a client who works in a state with no formal state code. > The local Fire Marshals pretty much make up what they want. A 24 hour > walk-in clinic is moving in to an unsprinklered shopping center. The FM > said that it needs to be sprinklered because it is open 24 hours but he is > only asking for a 13R system fed from the existing 2" service. 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