What is the building code? Does the walk in clinic meet the definition of 
"Ambulatory Health Care Occupancy"? If not then a "Business Occupancy as per 
NFPA 101. In either case automatic fire sprinklers are not required by NFPA 101 
or the IBC, unless the occupancy is considered as an "I" Use Group by the IBC, 
a "Clinic - Outpatient" is considered as a "B" Use Group per Section 304 
Business Use Group.  



Jim Davidson 
 
Davidson Associates 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Latest act of stupidity

Funny. Did you point out that this was a life-safety system designed to
provide life-safety only protection in a structure built to and designed as
a typical stick-frame building with typical residential room contents and
furnishings, not standard strip mall construction with business layout and
furniture configurations? Why do these guys become smarter than the
experienced committee members as soon as the Wizard gives them a gold badge
or a basic engineering degree?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> I got a call from a client who works in a state with no formal state code.
> The local Fire Marshals pretty much make up what they want. A 24 hour
> walk-in clinic is moving in to an unsprinklered shopping center. The FM
> said that it needs to be sprinklered because it is open 24 hours but he is
> only asking for a 13R system fed from the existing 2" service. He put it in
> writing and I am in process of obtaining copies. 0.16 is looking pretty
> good right now.
>
> Todd G. Williams, PE
> Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> Stonington, CT
> 860.535.2080
> www.fpdc.com
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