"How do you take them out but provide
equivalent protection". this is the key question Chris Cahill. it
means the '07 must require more auto water than the '02, and no manual
water, and let's the the person who knows where the rubber meets the
road make the final call :)
Quoting bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com:
maybe backwards again-- main thing is look at both editions
carefully is the only help i can offer...
Quoting bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com:
BEWARE Ron-- for some arrangements, the '02 requires more water
than the 07, so if you have to use one or the other in its entirety
you will want to know exactly what you looking at, whether it makes
sense or not!
Quoting Bob <b...@firebyknight.com>:
If memory serves me well, which it always doesn't, the IBC / IFC
allowed for
the omission of the small hose valves. But, it is based on AHJ approval.
Hopefully that might help. I don't recall the section.
Bob Knight, CET III
208-318-3057
www.firebyknight.com
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Cahill,
Christopher
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 5:01 PM
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Subject: RE: 2007 12.2.1 Small hose stations
May not help if '02 is the adopted code. AHJ technically doesn't have the
authority just to use another code. And it would be hard to use alternate
methods if the base is hose stations. How do you take them out but provide
equivalent protection. Don't get me wrong hose stations IMHO have very
limited uses. If you are really paranoid even if granted you are liable
should anything go wrong. Yes I find it hard to believe there is any
scenario where hose stations or not make the difference but that's why I'm
not an insurance lawyer.
Chris Cahill, PE*
Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group Burns &
McDonnell
8201 Norman Center Drive
Bloomington, MN 55437
Phone: 952.656.3652
Fax: 952.229.2923
ccah...@burnsmcd.com
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rfletc...@aerofire.com
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 1:38 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: 2007 12.2.1 Small hose stations
We have an AHJ that is still using 2002 #13 and wants to make a building
owner install about 70 1.5" hose racks "because it is required by code".
Rather than just tell them that the 07 and 10 #13 makes them optional I
would like to give them a copy of the substantiation from the ROP and/or
ROC. Does anyone know how I can get a copy of those documents.
Thanks in advance,
Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ
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