You could add a system of heat or smokes for early warning; you could upgrade 
density or remote area size, for equal or better protection. Think outside the 
box if you're using Equivalency..... 


George L.  Church, Jr., CET  
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
g...@rowesprinkler.com


-----Original Message-----
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org 
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of 
rfletc...@aerofire.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:07 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: 2007 12.2.1 Small hose stations

But there is an allowance for a performance based design and/or new technology. 
The AHJ could approve a performance based design using current FM data sheets 
or 2010 NFPA #13 requirements.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ




-----Original Message-----
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org 
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Cahill, 
Christopher
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 4:01 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: 2007 12.2.1 Small hose stations

May not help if '02 is the adopted code. AHJ technically doesn't have the 
authority just to use another code.  And it would be hard to use alternate 
methods if the base is hose stations.  How do you take them out but provide 
equivalent protection.  Don't get me wrong hose stations IMHO have very limited 
uses.  If you are really paranoid even if granted you are liable should 
anything go wrong.  Yes I find it hard to believe there is any scenario where 
hose stations or not make the difference but that's why I'm not an insurance 
lawyer. 

Chris Cahill, PE*
Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group Burns & McDonnell
8201 Norman Center Drive
Bloomington, MN 55437
Phone:  952.656.3652
Fax:  952.229.2923
ccah...@burnsmcd.com
www.burnsmcd.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org 
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of 
rfletc...@aerofire.com
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 1:38 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: 2007 12.2.1 Small hose stations

We have an AHJ that is still using 2002 #13 and wants to make a building owner 
install about 70 1.5" hose racks "because it is required by code". Rather than 
just tell them that the 07 and 10 #13 makes them optional I would like to give 
them a copy of the substantiation from the ROP and/or ROC. Does anyone know how 
I can get a copy of those documents.

Thanks in advance,


Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ




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