If that is the case, then ask the ICC for an official code interpretation about placing standpipes on mezzanines in a 1 story building.
Duane Johnson, PE Program Manager Division of the Fire Marshal (Contractor) Office of Research Services National Institutes of Health 301-496-0487 "Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time" -----Original Message----- From: John Drucker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fire Marshal requirement? You mean to say after all the proposals, comments,hearings, adoption comments the rules aren't clear ? Could that be the issue and not the enforcer ? John Drucker - Mobile Email ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Wed Jan 30 12:54:05 2013 Subject: Fire Marshal requirement? Jim: thanks for the explanation on job duties. that kinda explains why some AHJ's won't bend to help "interpret" a grey area, but it does not justify why they wont. If we all adjust in tiny bits to accomodate the larger goal of improved design, then things tend to move smoother, down the line. When someone rigidly follows a job title, lock-step, it is explainable, but they don't get a great review from my point of view. And then there are the few that make interpretations on the far side of conservative, regarding the prescriptions, with no credibility, other than their ability to stall construction. Its obvious we are all part of a team, but the incentives (in this case, the FM written job description) is not helping, and obviously is hurting. We are not machines. We are interpreting things as they need interpreting, from time to time, and that is where we need to think of ourselves as part of a design team (AHJ, designer / technician, EOR, owner, and even the users of the building). Yeah, I know a lot of team members are greedy, egotistical full-tards, which makes it hard to work cooperatively with them. Maybe we should rate all the team members with 360 degree reviews... Something should be done to offer better incentives to work together and de-incentivise (or televise) the bad actions so as to make them better actors. scot deal Excelsior Fire/Risk Engineering -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20130130/e1cf787c/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY: This email message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, nor is it, unless specifically stated, intended to be relied upon by any person or persons other than the individual or entity named above and no warranties or representations are made or intended to persons or entities not named above. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone, return this message to the address above and delete all copies. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20130130/a9813815/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
