I will give them a call. It might be an option I hadn't thought about this
system.

thanks


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Make a call to the guys at Victaulic and look at the Vortex system.  You
> may be able to offer it as an alternative design to traditional sprinklers
> to the AHJ.  It takes very little water, can suppress high challenge fuel
> fires in open environments, doesn't require the same closure restrictions
> as gaseous systems do and can be set up to operate off of virtually any
> water source or as a standalone system with water cylinders. They also can
> provide backup water for multi-shots if needed for redundancy.
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> CH2MHILL Extension  74102
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig
> Leadbetter
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Extra Hazard storage
>
> The project is a Class IC storage facility storing lampricide in 5 gallon
> containers with rack storage that is 2400 sqft. With a required .45/3000
> plus 500 PGM for two hours the cost of the water supply is going to
> outweigh the cost of the building.
>
> The site is remote and there is no municipal water available.   If I have
> done my research through NFPA 30 correctly we are looking at a tank that is
> 200,000 gallons or more. Unfortunately the site has existing buildings and
> the site plan does not allow the space for a non-protected building
>
> I was just trying to come up with a reasonable costing fire protection
> system although there may be nothing that is reasonable for this facility.
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Is it bigger than a breadbox?
> >
> > Dry chem. Is typically reserved for protecting areas inside equipment.
> >  Not occupied or potentially occupied spaces.
> >
> > For large areas there are so many problems with keeping the area tight
> > to contain gas such as FM-200 that it would be virtually impossible.
> > Also gas systems aren't going to suitable for every commodity.  And
> > lastly, if the Codes require sprinkler protection, most AHJ's aren't
> > going to go along with a gas only system as primary.
> >
> > So the questions arises as to why do you want to use gas instead of
> > sprinklers?
> >
> > Craig L. Prahl, CET
> > Fire Protection
> > CH2MHILL
> > Lockwood Greene
> > 1500 International Drive
> > Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> > Direct - 864.599.4102
> > Fax - 864.599.8439
> > CH2MHILL Extension  74102
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig
> > Leadbetter
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 1:56 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Extra Hazard storage
> >
> > Can an extra hazard storage facility be protected by a gas system or
> > dry chemical system?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Craig Leadbetter
> > Safeguard of Marquette
> > PO Box 116
> > Marquette, MI 49855
> >
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> > (F) 906-475-5474
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