I think Chris is right about the explanation you want written down doesn't
exist. It may be in a 4th grade math book but not with a sprinkler example
and I.m not sure this guy could make the leap from concept of apples always
equals apples, nor by using granny smiths instead of braeburns does not
make one oranges. Now if the bill is $3.28 and you give the checker $5.28
after he punches in the numbers do you get $2.00 change or a blank stare?


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Cahill, Christopher
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Day 2 of the month and I believe this is a strong candidate for monthly
> winner of REALLY, AHJ's Wants What prize?   You are talking about regular
> coverage right?  If you do end up giving calc's please do SR vs. QR
> reductions if applicable. What you are looking for probably doesn't exist.
>  Perhaps sitting down with them and starting very basic would be a
> solution.  Sounds like he/she doesn't understand k-factor and listings.  I
> suppose may also be dinged for changing manufactures?
>
> Chris Cahill, PE*
> Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group
> Burns & McDonnell
> 8201 Norman Center Drive
> Bloomington, MN 55437
> Phone:  952.656.3652
> Fax:  952.229.2923
> [email protected]
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 2:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: SR vs QR
>
> These don say exactly what the ahj is looking for. We changed 20 SR heads
> in one compartment with new QR heads because they were painted or damaged
> and now he wants calcs because we did not replace them with exactly the
> same thing.
>
> He finally said that if we could show him they were identical except for
> response time he would allow them.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Ron Greenman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > http://www.vikinggroupinc.com/techarticles/thermal.pdf
> >
> >
> > http://www.ahcancal.org/facility_operations/fire_life_safety/Pages/Qui
> > ckResponseSHvsStandardSH.aspx
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Greg McGahan <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone have documetnation in an easy to read format that shows
> > > the difference in SR SSP/U and QR SSP/U heads is ONLY the response
> > > time and that all other aspects are identical - spray pattern,
> > > spacing
> > requirements,
> > > deflector distance etc?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > --
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