My only concern was about the possibility of a deep seated fire such as in a 
pile of wood chips

Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
www.fpdc.com

On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Dwight Havens <[email protected]> wrote:

> Todd,  I had to think about this one awhile.  When I was with the Fire 
> Marshals office in Phoenix, we (the City of Phoenix) built two waste 
> recycling, sorting and transfer stations.  As I recall, the design density 
> was 0.25 gpm/ft2 over 2500 ft2.  Looking at the Figures in NFPA 13, for piled 
> storage protection, that puts it smack in the middle of the Class IV curve 
> using high temperature sprinklers at 20 feet high storage.  That pretty much 
> agrees with Mr. Sornsins recollections for his facility, and it is a design 
> that I was comfortable with.
> 
> Dwight
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "Mark A. Sornsin, P.E." <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 10:44 AM
> Subject: RE: Trash Transfer Station
> 
> 
> Despite recycling efforts, municipal waste (I think) remains largely paper 
> with wood and plastics interspersed. I would expect fires in transfers 
> station piles to behave similarly to baled waste paper fires, with added heat 
> release from the plastics.
> 
> On a facility like this a number of years back, we married the requirements 
> of FM data Sheet 8-22 on baled waste paper storage with the requirements of 
> class IV solid pile storage (or maybe we used plastics?). Can't recall the 
> details, as they were left behind at a previous employer - but that was the 
> concept.
> 
> 
> Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Fire Protection Engineer 
> | Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9905 | mobile: 701.371.5759 | 
> http://www.kfiengineers.com
> 
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