Geza - will you please send that directly to me off-forum?   AFSA list-server 
doesn't do attachments.


Steve Leyton




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geza 
Szakats
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Car Stacker in parking garage

Attached is the San Francisco Fire Department bulletin regarding their 
requirements for car stackers.

Geza Szakats  PE  LEED AP
Associate  |  Fire Engineering
 
Arup
560 Mission Street  Suite 700  San Francisco  CA 94105 t +1 415 957 9445  d +1 
415 946 0703 f +1 415 957 9096 www.arup.com



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Failla, 
Daniel
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:28 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Car Stacker in parking garage

Mark,

We had one of these Car Stacker Systems installed here in Charleston SC earlier 
this year.  Our building was a parking garage plus 5 story hotel of type IIB 
construction.

Mr. Schultz was very kind to forward to me a copy of the British testing report 
for assistance.  Also, on this side of the pond, San Francisco Fire has their 
own interior city design criteria for the car stacker systems.

The end result we agreed upon here in Charleston was 11.2K ECOH HSW sprinkler 
protection around the group of three car stackers located 12" below the car 
stacker when in the high position.  The issue we had to work with here in 
Charleston was the car stacker was a last minute addition and not covered under 
the original sprinkler permit.  The garage was already a black pipe, dry system 
being supplied by a fire pump that was installed and certified when the car 
stackers were installed.  The secondary objective for our project was a 
solution that will provide the objective of NFPA 13 for control, and not 
removing most if not all of the garage and fire pump system.

I wish I had a better solution for you.

Sincerely
Daniel S. Failla Jr.
Assistant Fire Marshal
Charleston Fire Department
Fire Marshal Division
Preservation Through Prevention

Office - 843 - 724 - 5960
Email: [email protected]
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