I may have let my frustration of the timing of the request at the permit stage spill over a bit :)
While I do see his reasoning and agree that this is a legit concern, the fact that FRT is being used indicates that the intent was never to provide sprinklers in the attic There aren't even any attic access points located in the ceilings. The students would literally have to cut a hole and climb up through the drywall to get up there. Just another day at the office! ᐧ Thanks, Tony Liddic, CET MRH Sprinkler Design LLC 356 Laurel Glen Dr. Springboro, OH 45066 937-369-7926 http://mrhsprinklerdesign.com [email protected] On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Aaron Peck <[email protected]> wrote: > Tom, > > It's that it's a non combustible attic space and he's asking for > sprinklers to be added. > > Because the kids typically climb up into the attic space. And camp out > there is why he wants them to add attic protection. > > Seems to me a valid reason but that's not how the architect/engineer > prescribed it, and not how it was bid. I also agree you can't put the cart > before the horse and say you have to put sprinklers because they may camp > out there. > > Sent from my iPhone > Aaron M. Peck, SET Fire Protection > Skype +1(202)407-9079 > Cambodia +855(0)78700407 > > > On Nov 19, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Tim Stone <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Tony, > > > > If I understand your post, you are being asked to remove the sprinkler > system from the wood frame combustible Attic space? > > > > Ask them to show you that in NFPA 13. > > My copy of 13 states sprinklers may be omitted in an unused Attic of > non-combustible construction. > > > > Regards, > > G. Tim Stone > > > > G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC > > NICET Level III Engineering Technician > > Fire Protection Sprinkler Design > > and Consulting Services > > > > 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 > > CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (802) 434-2968 Fax: (802) 434-4343 > > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Liddic > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:44 AM > > To: sprinklerforum > > Subject: Frat House Attic Space > > > > Just received a correction letter regarding a Frat House at a local > university. The 3 story building is a steel/concrete except for the Roof > Structure which is all FRT wood materials. No sprinklers required per NFPA > > 13 in concealed attic space. > > > > How do I argue with this "logic"??? > > > > "3. Add sprinklers to attic space. This location has a history of > residents accessing the attic area and also breaching the ceiling and walls > of the rooms to "expand their living space" into the attic." > > > > I guess we should have done more research on this project before bidding > the job with no attic sprinklers??? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tony Liddic, CET > > MRH Sprinkler Design LLC > > 356 Laurel Glen Dr. > > Springboro, OH 45066 > > 937-369-7926 > > http://mrhsprinklerdesign.com > > [email protected] > > > > ᐧ > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
