Mark, 

Which edition if IFC are you looking in?


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> On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:09 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Where are you guys finding these specific methods of "proving" the adequacy 
> of the fire flow requirements? I don't find any language close to this in the 
> IFC.  
> 
> Mark at Aero
> 602 820-7894
> 
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>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:55 PM, "Steve Leyton" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> At 4 hydrants simultaneously if they're on the same water supply, or in 
>> combination of public and private or at however many hydrants you have if 
>> fewer than 4 and those being the sole source of fire flow.
>> 
>> As other comments, I would reiterate that the Table B fire flow is for 
>> outside hose streams only and completely separate and apart from any 
>> hydraulic demand related to building sprinkler systems.
>> 
>> Steve L.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: [email protected] 
>> </div><div>Date:12/05/2014  6:29 PM  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: 
>> [email protected] </div><div>Subject: Re: A Poll of the 
>> Experienced </div><div>
>> </div>I think I agree with you, but to be very specific, let's assume I'm 
>> designing a new building on a greenfield site which is served by a public 
>> water system. The building is type V construction, 600,000 square feet and 
>> fully protected with ESFR sprinklers. Table B105.2 indicated a fire flow 
>> rate of 8000 GPM, reduced to 4000 GPM for sprinkler credit, at minimum 
>> 20psi. My question is, WHERE is this 4000 GPM at 20 psi measured? At the 
>> city water main connection? Or at the fire pump discharge? 
>> 
>> Mark at Aero
>> 602 820-7894
>> 
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>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:17 PM, "Cahill, Christopher" <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Neither.  It's the flow you need for a building. You might get it from a 
>>> muni or private. Absolutely nothing to do with sprinklers except you get a 
>>> reduction if building is sprinklered.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Cahill
>>> Fire Protection Engineer
>>> Burns & McDonnell
>>> 952-656-3652
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> Date:12/05/2014 8:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: A Poll of the Experienced
>>> 
>>> Over this weekend I'd like to ask the opinion of those forumites 
>>> experienced in the reading and understanding of the "International Fire  
>>> Code" on the topic of "Fire Flow" described in Chapter 5, and further 
>>> prescribed in Appendix B. Is the available flow rate and residual pressure 
>>> referenced, intended to describe these values of the municipal or private 
>>> water supply available to the building site? Or, the minimum output of any 
>>> fire pump associated specifically with the automatic sprinkler system in 
>>> the building?
>>> Any takers? Questions? Clarifications?
>>> Thanks for any answers.
>>> 
>>> Mark at Aero
>>> 602 820-7894
>>> 
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