All five. 

Mark at Aero
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> On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:12 PM, "Jeff Hewitt" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Mark, 
> 
> Which edition if IFC are you looking in?
> 
> 
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>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:09 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Where are you guys finding these specific methods of "proving" the adequacy 
>> of the fire flow requirements? I don't find any language close to this in 
>> the IFC.  
>> 
>> Mark at Aero
>> 602 820-7894
>> 
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>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:55 PM, "Steve Leyton" <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> At 4 hydrants simultaneously if they're on the same water supply, or in 
>>> combination of public and private or at however many hydrants you have if 
>>> fewer than 4 and those being the sole source of fire flow.
>>> 
>>> As other comments, I would reiterate that the Table B fire flow is for 
>>> outside hose streams only and completely separate and apart from any 
>>> hydraulic demand related to building sprinkler systems.
>>> 
>>> Steve L.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: 
>>> [email protected] </div><div>Date:12/05/2014  6:29 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
>>> </div><div>To: [email protected] </div><div>Subject: 
>>> Re: A Poll of the Experienced </div><div>
>>> </div>I think I agree with you, but to be very specific, let's assume I'm 
>>> designing a new building on a greenfield site which is served by a public 
>>> water system. The building is type V construction, 600,000 square feet and 
>>> fully protected with ESFR sprinklers. Table B105.2 indicated a fire flow 
>>> rate of 8000 GPM, reduced to 4000 GPM for sprinkler credit, at minimum 
>>> 20psi. My question is, WHERE is this 4000 GPM at 20 psi measured? At the 
>>> city water main connection? Or at the fire pump discharge? 
>>> 
>>> Mark at Aero
>>> 602 820-7894
>>> 
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>>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:17 PM, "Cahill, Christopher" <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Neither.  It's the flow you need for a building. You might get it from a 
>>>> muni or private. Absolutely nothing to do with sprinklers except you get a 
>>>> reduction if building is sprinklered.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Cahill
>>>> Fire Protection Engineer
>>>> Burns & McDonnell
>>>> 952-656-3652
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> Date:12/05/2014 8:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: A Poll of the Experienced
>>>> 
>>>> Over this weekend I'd like to ask the opinion of those forumites 
>>>> experienced in the reading and understanding of the "International Fire  
>>>> Code" on the topic of "Fire Flow" described in Chapter 5, and further 
>>>> prescribed in Appendix B. Is the available flow rate and residual pressure 
>>>> referenced, intended to describe these values of the municipal or private 
>>>> water supply available to the building site? Or, the minimum output of any 
>>>> fire pump associated specifically with the automatic sprinkler system in 
>>>> the building?
>>>> Any takers? Questions? Clarifications?
>>>> Thanks for any answers.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark at Aero
>>>> 602 820-7894
>>>> 
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