Based on the 2nd draft, this is what the 2016 language will say unless it is Successfully NITMAM ed
6.2.1.1* When a sprinkler is removed from a fitting or welded outlet, it shall not be reinstalled except as permitted by 6.2.1.1.1. 6.2.1.1.1 Dry sprinklers shall be permitted to be reinstalled when removed in accordance with the manufacturer's installation and maintenance instructions. A.6.2.1.1 Sprinklers should be permitted to be reinstalled when the sprinkler being removed from the system remains attached to the original fitting or welded outlet, provided care has been taken to ensure the sprinkler has not been damaged. Flexible hose connections are considered a fitting. In new installations, where sprinklers are installed on pendent drop nipples or sidewall sprinklers prior to final cut-back, protective caps and/or straps should remain in place until after the drop nipple has been cut to fit to the final ceiling elevation. This is my opinion only and does not constitute the official opinion of the NFPA. Peter Schwab VP of Purchasing & Engineering Technologies Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers Inc. 222 Capitol Court Ocoee, Fl 34761 Mobile: (407) 468-8248 Direct: (407) 877-5570 Fax: (407) 656-8026 www.waynefire.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael G Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 3:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Relocate sprinklers with drops I would have to agree with Richard, He is not pulling the head out of the piping, the Boss of the sprinkler is taking no extra strain and there is no extra stress added on the sprinkler head its self. Only the piping is being removed, cut threaded and reinstalled. We basically do this when we install a system.... We run the branch line, install a 0-2 and elbow, the drop and a head with the support ring installed already, so that when we do our initial testing for leaks, the drops are tested all the way to the sprinkler head. The reason for this is, 1) to eliminate the number of potential leaks at the end of the job while conducting the final pressure test. 2) if there is a bad head or something wrong, i.e. cracked 1 x 1/2" RC, it is easier to change it out then, instead of over finished floor and product. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane Johnson Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Relocate sprinklers with drops 6.2.1.1 (2013) When a sprinkler has been removed for any reason, it shall not be reinstalled. Duane Johnson Strickland Fire Protection -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Carr Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 3:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Relocate sprinklers with drops If he is not pulling the head how is it a violation of NFPA? Richard Carr, SET Branch Manager Cox Fire Protection, Inc 6555 Grace Lane. Jacksonville, Fl. 32205 [email protected] 904-781-8227 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane Johnson Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 3:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Relocate sprinklers with drops The problem is, you won't find this in the standard unless you print out the ROC... Duane Johnson Strickland Fire Protection -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane Johnson Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 3:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Relocate sprinklers with drops Not permitted. There was a proposal submitted on the last cycle to allow this, but it was rejected. Duane Johnson Strickland Fire Protection -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art Tiroly Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 3:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Relocate sprinklers with drops I am having an argument with a contractor that is removing heads and drops then moving them to a new position. Sprinklers are QR less than 5 years old. He is not removing the head from the drop or the 1x1/2 RC. He says he is not reusing sprinklers just relocating them with the drop nipple. He says this is standard practice. Does this violate 6.2.1.1? Do not reuse sprinklers removed from the system. 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