Chris:

That is exactly the point. How do you determine the SDC? Why should sprinkler 
guys do that?

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> On Aug 19, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What makes you think you even need seismic protections if the information you 
> seek isn't on the Structural plans?
> 
> Chris Cahill, PE*
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Brian Harris
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Seismic Ss Values
> 
> Travis-
> I hear ya and can't say as I disagree. "It's just the way we've always done 
> it....". The info isn't on the structural sheets but I did send an email to 
> the GC.
> 
> Brian Harris, CET
> BVS Systems Inc.
> bvssytemsinc.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Travis Mack
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:28 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Seismic Ss Values
> 
> It should be in the design notes on the structural engineering plans. 
> 
> Not to say you can't use that site to get the information, but it puts 
> liability on you that belongs on the structural engineer. 
> 
> I will use the site to get the info while waiting for the SE if it is not on 
> the structural plans. But, I still state that if the SE won't provide the 
> values, then we can't provide the calcs. It is just liability I don't want. 
> 
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>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Travis-
>> Never been a big deal up until now, I'll throw it back on them and wait for 
>> the deer in the headlights look......
>> 
>> Brian Harris, CET
>> BVS Systems Inc.
>> bvssytemsinc.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sprinklerforum
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Travis Mack
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:05 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Seismic Ss Values
>> 
>> Make the structural engineer provide them. I push back pretty hard that this 
>> is required to be done by the structural guys. 
>> 
>> Travis Mack, SET
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>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 6:47 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where are you guys getting the Ss values for your seismic calc's. I've been 
>>> using (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/hazards/designmaps/) but recently it 
>>> won't input the coordinates based on the city and state anymore. I used to 
>>> use one that worked based on zip code but that doesn't work anymore either. 
>>> Maybe it's a computer setting?
>>> 
>>> Brian Harris, CET
>>> BVS Systems Inc.
>>> Sprinkler Division
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