Then like Travis said send in an RFI or call/email the person who signed the plans saying C. That is your only legal option. Going to the website is interesting but determining Ss I'd argue is beyond whatever qualifies you to design systems. I guess we should be happy though at least they said C and didn't leave that up to you as well.
Chris Cahill, PE* Associate Fire Protection Engineer Burns & McDonnell Phone: 952.656.3652 Fax: 952.229.2923 [email protected] www.burnsmcd.com *Registered in: MN Proud to be #14 on FORTUNE's 2014 List of 100 Best Companies to Work For -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Seismic Ss Values Chris- The structural plans do have some seismic information just not enough. It does call for a seismic design category "C". Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cahill, Christopher Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Seismic Ss Values What makes you think you even need seismic protections if the information you seek isn't on the Structural plans? Chris Cahill, PE* Associate Fire Protection Engineer Burns & McDonnell Phone: 952.656.3652 Fax: 952.229.2923 [email protected] www.burnsmcd.com *Registered in: MN Proud to be #14 on FORTUNE's 2014 List of 100 Best Companies to Work For -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Seismic Ss Values Travis- I hear ya and can't say as I disagree. "It's just the way we've always done it....". The info isn't on the structural sheets but I did send an email to the GC. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Mack Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Seismic Ss Values It should be in the design notes on the structural engineering plans. Not to say you can't use that site to get the information, but it puts liability on you that belongs on the structural engineer. I will use the site to get the info while waiting for the SE if it is not on the structural plans. But, I still state that if the SE won't provide the values, then we can't provide the calcs. It is just liability I don't want. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC "Follow" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Send large files to MFP Design via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Travis- > Never been a big deal up until now, I'll throw it back on them and wait for > the deer in the headlights look...... > > Brian Harris, CET > BVS Systems Inc. > bvssytemsinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Travis Mack > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Seismic Ss Values > > Make the structural engineer provide them. I push back pretty hard that this > is required to be done by the structural guys. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > "Follow" us on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to MFP Design via: > https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 6:47 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Where are you guys getting the Ss values for your seismic calc's. I've been >> using (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/hazards/designmaps/) but recently it won't >> input the coordinates based on the city and state anymore. I used to use one >> that worked based on zip code but that doesn't work anymore either. 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