Understood and agreed, some of these types of occupancies are most definitely outside the simple world of NFPA 13.
Welcome to my everyday world. :) Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 5:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Brewery and Still Works Maybe it was 1B. I don't mean to prescribe ANYTHING in my replies ... My point (still valid by the way) is that you have Fire Code and NFPA 30 issues and you're not going to find a tidy little prescriptive section for this hybrid occupancy in code or any one standard. Certainly not in NFPA 13. SL -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Brewery and Still Works Grain alcohol as a Class IA? Someone needs to revisit that. Protecting Class IA flammables and production areas can get into some hairy building, fire and mechanical code requirements. People tend to look at only flash point on Flammables and forget that the difference between Class IA and Class IB is based on Boiling Point. In most cases if you are actually dealing with Class IA flammables you're probably going to puttin' down some foam. We'll now return to our regularly scheduled program....................... Craig L. Prahl Fire Protection Group Lead/SME CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Brewery and Still Works There's not really a "brewery" section in the codes and standards but you're dealing with very low alcohol-content liquids on the beer side, so brewing and storage are likely ordinary hazard there. And a restaurant is what it is. The issue is the still and how much high-test will be produced; we did a micro-distiller here in San Diego County who has one still but it's of a size that will produce about 100 gallons at a time of nearly pure grain alcohol and that required special attention as a Class IA flammable/combustible liquid. I would definitely look at it from the FCL and haz-mat perspective or bring in a code consultant with some experience. Even with sprinklers, you may find yourself needing separate fire control areas for the distilled spirits ... SL -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Mote Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Brewery and Still Works Can anyone point me in the right direction regarding the correct hazard for sprinklers in an approximately 6000 sq. ft. 2 story + basement, Brewery / Still Works / Pub / Restaurant. I have looked through IBC 2009 and found nothing , NFPA 13, 2007 says distilleries are Ordinary Group II. I'm thinking that may not be adequate for some of the areas. In our kick off meeting they were discussing explosion proof lighting and switches in the approx. 677 sq. ft. bonded storage room, and the 630 sq. ft. Distillery area. Anyone have any thoughts? Richard L. 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