The dry system required flow based on the calc is approximately 290 GPM and 
required pressure is 90 PSI. But I am not sure how to add the hose allowance to 
find its impact on required pressure.

P.S. The building does not have a required for a standpipe and none will be 
used.

Thanks for helping!



On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Matthew J Willis 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

And what were the results? You have solved for velocity. That is kind of a 
lesser concern than available water, and amount required for system.
The only way to answer your question is to perform a full hydraulic analysis 
using Elite.

R/Matt

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On Mar 4, 2017 2:35 PM, very Cool 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Elite


On Mar 4, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Matthew J Willis 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I'll ask this question, what hydraulic calculation software are you using?

Matt

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On Mar 4, 2017 2:28 PM, very Cool 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for your response Art. The hydrant test shows 130 psi at 500 GPM
The parking is on ground level and the pipes wound the 10' above the ground 
floor
The new main will only serve the sprinkler with hose allowance. It does not 
need to serve fire hydrant. Thanks again





On Mar 4, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Art Tiroly 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

From the information presented the question can’t be answered.
To do a hydraulic analysis you need:
A water flow test near the point of the connection.
Length of the underground fire main from the connection to the riser.
Elevation of the dry system highest sprinkler.
Is there a fire hydrant supplied from the proposed 4” main?
If yes then the main shall be 6”.

Best analysis is to do a preliminary  hydraulic calculation to determine if 4” 
is adequate.


Art Tiroly
ATCO Fire Protection/Tiroly
24400 Highland Rd CLE 44143
216-621-8899
216-570-7030 cell



From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of very Cool
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:52 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Size of main service - dry parking garage -

Hi:

I am trying to find if a 4" main is adequate for a dry system to serve a 
parking garage.  Here is what I am calculating. Would appreciate any feedback:

The area of application would be 1500 SF, which needs to increase by 30% as per 
Section 11.2.3.2.5, to 1950 SF.

Water demand = 1950  x .15 = 293 GPM
Add 250 hose allowance: 293 + 250=543 GPM
 Velocity at 4" main and 543 GPM =13.7 FPS, therefore ok

Thank you
Ramez




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