Since the pipe is running underground, is PVC or CPVC acceptable? Those are 
already used for underground piping for free-standing FDC's.Just trying to 
think outside the box.rick 

    On Monday, February 19, 2018 8:06 PM, Bruce Verhei <bver...@comcast.net> 
wrote:
 

 
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> On Feb 19, 2018, at 17:49, Charles Thurston <thurst...@pyebarkerfire.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> My concern with the cement lined Di. Is it not designed to have water in it 
> all the time keeping the cement lining wet? I would be concerned on a fry 
> system of the cement drying out. I know I have walked on plenty of dry dement 
> walks and gotten that white powder off it and the surface has dried out and 
> turned back to powder.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Charles Thurston                          thurst...@pyebarkerfire.com
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:36 PM
>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
>> Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type
>> 
>> Cement lined ductile iron.  If you use standard DI, and a standard 
>> atmospheric
>> sourced air compressor you can have rust and scaling buildup with ambient air
>> inside pipe in contact with cooler ground temps.
>> 
>> How are you going to slope underground pipe back to an aboveground valve
>> room?  Basement level valve room?
>> 
>> 
>> Craig L. Prahl
>> Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
>> Direct - 864.920.7540
>> Fax - 864.920.7129
>> Direct Extension  77540
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:11 PM
>> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
>> Subject: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL]
>> 
>> I asked a similar question a number of years ago and it appears as though the
>> consensus at that time was that dry-pipe system underground pipe should be
>> ductile iron.  We have an application where the dry-pipe system leaves the 
>> valve
>> room and goes underground and then extends above ground.  Is ductile iron the
>> best option for the underground portion?  We are able to slope to drain back 
>> to
>> the valve room.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Reed Roisum
>> 
>> 
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