Thank you, Roland. There seems to be a consensus among the PEs who have responded on the forum. I don't intend to get in a battle with the EOR on this project, but it helps to know I was thinking on the right track.
The contractor met with the Arch/Eng and the State FM on site yesterday. It seems as though the FM is going to agree they are required. Micah Davis, SET NICET #124745 Water Based Systems Layout, Level IV Dynamic Fire Designs Mail: [email protected] Mobile: 931-242-1299 www.dynamicfiredesigns.com<http://dynamicfiredesigns.com> Dynamic Fire Designs • 13063 County Line Rd., Box #87 • Spring Hill • FL • 34609 This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. ________________________________ From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on behalf of Roland Huggins <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Concealed Space If its a wall, it is structural. It’s the presence of sufficient combustibles that drive the boat (such as a NONCOMBUSTIBLE space with big bundles of wiring) Roland Roland Huggins, PE - Senior VP Engineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org<http://www.firesprinkler.org/> Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives On Jun 15, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Micah Davis, SET <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have a project that has a concealed space with exposed wood wall framing. I added concealed space sprinklers per 8.15.1.2.1. The engineer is telling me to remove them stating that, since the walls are not load bearing, they are not structural walls. He then references Appendix A for 8.15.1.2.1 that states the requirements to protect the space does not apply for "nonstructural" wood. Has anyone seen this before? What is the opinion of the Forum? I will, of course, defer to the engineer, but I am recommending that the contractor I'm working with get a letter from the engineer clearly stating that they are requesting the sprinkler not be installed. Micah Davis, SET NICET #124745 Water Based Systems Layout, Level IV Dynamic Fire Designs Mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Mobile: 931-242-1299 www.dynamicfiredesigns.com<http://dynamicfiredesigns.com/> Dynamic Fire Designs • 13063 County Line Rd., Box #87 • Spring Hill • FL • 34609 This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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