So, trellis material is just extending out horizontally from the building to create a type of sun shade?
I’d look at it like an architectural feature that is not a roof, canopy or overhang. Wherever the solid surface of the overhang ends, that’s it. Is there any requirement to provide sprinklers under the overhang? Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | [email protected] | www.jacobs.com<http://www.jacobs.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Mack Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: % open It’s a golf clubhouse with a radius projection. There are limited spots to hang if we have to protect this space. It’s just a big cluster bomb. 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Trellis construction being open is similar to a pergola where there is no ceiling/roof. Being open, you can’t trap heat or smoke as long as they don’t plan to let plants grow on the trellis work to create a “green roof/ceiling”. Is this for public seating? If it is, there may be local requirements for overhead materials if they are combustible. Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | www.jacobs.com<http://www.jacobs.com/> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 11:02 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: % open Then I don’t think the section sited below is the correct application. I’m honestly not sure where that is quantified. We usually are successful making the argument that it won’t trap heat, but I can’t think of where that’s actually spelled out in the code. I’m interested in the responses to this one. Would it not otherwise meet the criteria for omitting sprinklers under an exterior projection? -Kyle M From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MFP Design, LLC Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:52 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: % open Yes. 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Something that would not have sprinklers above, just open to the sky above? -Kyle M From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Paulsen Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 7:48 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: % open 8.15.14.1 (2013) John Paulsen – SET Crown Fire System Design 6282 Seeds Rd. Grove City, OH 43123 P – 614-782-2438 F – 614-782-2374 C – 614-348-8206 From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MFP Design, LLC Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:44 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: % open I have a project where the architect is asking what is the % opening required in a trellis type structure so that sprinklers are not required. 70% open is coming to mind, but I can’t find a section referencing anything like that. 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