Activation is my forte Steve, I know what I'm talking about.

Brad

Quoting Steve Leyton <[email protected]>:

I'll bet the "standard" is quaking in its boots.

What, exactly, do you find lacking or out of place about this standard you vaguely refer to? That it doesn't make provisions for these types of obstructions to sprinkler discharge (which baffles and so-called heat collectors most certainly are) or that it doesn't a prescription for how to install objects that have been proven to delay the operation of sprinklers?

For all the pseudo-combative comments you make about these "standards", I have to wonder: have you ever made a proposal or a public input? Ever applied to join a technical committee? Ever in any fashion offered to work in any capacity as part of a solution to some perceived problem with the standards?

Assuming your answers to the preceding are no, no and no and seeing that you're "ready to rumble", now's a great time to dive in ...

Steve L.

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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sidewalls in Partial Soffits

I've never been so ready to rumble Travis, especially with a "standard".

Brad

Quoting Travis Mack <[email protected]>:

You can feel free to put your liability and career on the line for
something like that. I don’t think it is supported in any code or
standard. If I were doing the project in question I would say no.

However some one could prove it wrong with a code or standard reference.

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On Jul 5, 2018, at 3:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:

I agree "heat collectors" are useless for pendents Travis.
I think this is because they were installed horizontal. If they
were installed vertical, they would be "heat directors", causing
the ceiling jet to dip down and pop the head. That's what we have
here.

Brad

Quoting Travis Mack <[email protected]>:

This seems like no different than a “heat collector” for pendents.
Which we all know those are useless.

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On Jul 5, 2018, at 2:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Great point about what's not in the code Jerry- I see only WIDTH
verbiage - nothing about length!

Your AHJ mileage may vary.

Brad

Quoting Jerry Van Kolken <[email protected]>:

I have soffits over cabinets. The GC is asking if they can do a partial
soffit just at the sidewall location to pop over the cabinet
instead of the
entire cabinet length. Logically I'm thinking this is a no, but
not sure I
have any code verbiage to indicate either way. Is there a reference I can
look at.



This is project is turning into a really look at the code, or more what's
not stated in the code.



Thanks



Jerry Van Kolken

Millennium Fire Protection Corp.

2950 San Luis Rey Rd.

Oceanside, CA 92058

(760) 722-2722 FX 722-2730



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