Yes. That state agency can be a real pain.  I’ve had that happen that my 
customer stated, just change it to a listed anchor and we will put it in to 
just make them go away.  That’s why I was thinking to have it listed.

 

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From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Branchline Restraint

 

We have a state agency that has separate departmental plan reviews for FLS and 
structural.   The structural reviews are like a proctological exam (sorry Ro) 
and we have seen ALL manner of comments on hanger, bracing and restraint 
details, from bullseyes to bull****.    The most frustrating thing that they 
regularly do is confuse bracing and restraints and we are constantly pointing 
out the difference between a HANGER used in a restraint assembly and an BRACE 
because they impose EQB provisions on our restraint details.   Having repeated 
the same defense of our details over and over like a mental patient, I assure 
you that there is no prescriptive requirement that anchorage used in a 
restraint assembly must be listed.

 

Steve L.

 

 

 

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Joe Burtell
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:02 AM
To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: Branchline Restraint

 

I question if they need to be listed at all? Other details show staples, #8 
self-tapping screws for steel, 1/4" wood eyelets, etc... I can't imagine any of 
these are listed for EQ zones? Pipe EQ bracing it is clear, they have to be 
listed but I don't see where fasteners for restraint need to be?

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 7:47 AM Travis Mack <[email protected] 
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Are they listed for use in seismic applications? If so, I would believe you are 
good. If they aren’t listed for use in Seismic applications then not permitted. 

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On Apr 11, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Joe Burtell <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Are there any restrictions on using power-driven studs for branchline 
restraint? In the diagram, they show what looks like a wedge bolt anchor but I 
can't see where there is any size or requirements given for fasteners used for 
branchline restraint.

 

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