Well I've seen this (or equivalent bastard versions of this) several times 
before and I agree with your surmise that there's nothing to, "...absolve you 
of installing 3 levels of protection."

Now if somebody wants to fill the space above the fiberboard with 
non-combustible insulation, you get an exception that way but that's not 
usually the first choice in this type of a situation.

Good luck,
Steve L.

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: John Irwin; JD Gamble
Subject: RE: Concealed Combustible

25 years in this business ... still new situations every week. Amazing.

Wish I had some guidance for you JD. My gut says there isn't anything specific 
to this situation to guide you or absolve you of installing 3 levels of 
protection ...

My feeling is that protection ABOVE the fiberboard (along with sprinklers below 
the ACT) should be good. If the fiberboard burns, I'd rather have sprinklers 
above it than below ...


John Irwin
Quick Response Fire Protection


"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price 
is forgotten." - Benjamin Franklin

From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of JD Gamble via Sprinklerforum
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: JD Gamble <[email protected]>
Subject: Concealed Combustible

I would like to query greater minds than mine on is a space CC or Not ....

Basis of Code is NFPA 13 2016ed.

Spaces above Ceiling, Below Floor Above:

Situation is an Acoustical Grid Ceiling with 2x4 lay in tile (standard 
construction) 2' below metal open web joists (14" Depth) with attached 
FiberBoard.

Essentially creating 3 spaces of consideration: The floor space below the 
ceiling, the space above the ceiling between the ceiling and the fiberboard, 
and the space above the fiberboard to the deck/floor above.

The fiberboard being the combustible factor, would / should you extend coverage 
above and below it?

Thanks In Advance for your thoughts.

JD Gamble
307-763-3361
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