I am using lynx and links, and I think for bookkeeping the text is better , I think accountants like to wrok with text based browsers, all banks have terminals that are text based , they rarly use graphics (excpet for the signature) Omar ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonio Gallardo Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [SL] SQL-Ledger 1.8.6
Rod: I totally agree. I am currently developing a new web DB application using Apache Cocoon. And the best way I found to make it more user friendly was using JavaScript and DHTML. Of course I always check that generated pages works fine in Linux (Konqueror, Netscape, Mozilla and Galeon) and Windows (MS IE, Netscape) enviroment. I dont see the point of the "relevants browser". I live in a poor country, but I think we use the same browsers like all the world. Or not? Check it, what we use: Konqueror, Netscape, Mozilla, Galeon and MS IE. I think that this browsers are used by more than the 90% of the users around the world. What you use? What is the "relevant" browser in your country? Is something too new, that we dont know it? Please explain. And as Rod said: "Most of the good things that can be done with JS *can* work properly with a variety of popular browsers, and "browser detection" is almost always a very bad idea." Finally, I dont understand why people is attacking Javascript. When it seems they dont know it. They read some old issue of a computer magazine? I dont know. I am currently developing in Linux plataform and Javascript works very fine. Of course, security concerns can be in every application no matter what language we use. It depends more in the programmers a the plataform. For example, C and C++ are very nice languages, but all of us know a very poor OS called Windows. Can we tell then that C and C++ carry "security concerns"? Of course not! Please Dieter tell us what you think about using new technology in SL. Regards, Antonio Gallardo El Martes, 27 de Agosto de 2002 15:55, Rod Roark escribi�: > There's quite a bit of useful information here about > JavaScript compatibility across different browsers, and > ways to deal with the differences: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/js/ > > The main lessons to be learned here are that: > > (1) Most of the good things that can be done with JS *can* > work properly with a variety of popular browsers, and > > (2) So-called "browser detection" is almost always a very > bad idea. > > Cheers, > > -- Rod > http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ > > On Tuesday 27 August 2002 08:04 am, Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: > > I agree with you Dieter, but dont agree to use closed Microsoft specific > > extension to JavaScript. I think this is why many people dont like > > JavaScript, because there are many sites that always tell us: > > > > "You dont have MS IE installed Please download the it!". > > > > But this is not a valid reason to tell that JavaScript is not fair. > > Javascript is just a language to embed into HTML nothing more. But if you > > got into the close web of Microsoft in around JavaScript, then we will > > lose. > > > > I never hear someone telling that C or C++ even Java is not a good > > language just becaused they are closed to MS. This is ridiculous! But you > > will got into the MS tramp if you use the libraries (or sometimes called > > "extensions) of the specific language. > > > > There are many JavaScript libraries that works fine in Netscape or > > Mozilla compatible browsers. That means that are not tied to a specific > > browers or company. > > > > I hope you can got my point about that. > > > > Regards, > > > > Antonio Gallardo. > > > > El Martes, 27 de Agosto de 2002 07:38, Dieter Simader escribi�: > > > Frontends for the browser are split up. At the moment there are two > > > directories which run code depending on which browser you use. > > > > > > bin/mozilla runs the framed version, run of the mill straight html > > > bin/lynx is for the lynx browser > > > most everything is linked to bin/mozilla except the menu > > > is different > > > > > > bin/js is intended for Javascript code. > > > bin/xterm is intended for the perl/Tk port > > > bin/console is intended for a straight console port > > > > > > This way you are not forced to use any particular browser. If there > > > will ever be something specific for IE then I can always add bin/ie and > > > have all the IE code in this directory. > > > > > > > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > > > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > > > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, John Summerfield wrote: > > > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 03:03, Dieter Simader wrote: > > > > > mozilla is a catch all do GUI browser framed frontend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Javascript port will go into bin/js and if one wants to run > > > > > Javascript then you'd pass terminal=js The menu, which is something > > > > > like your traditional "File", "Edit" pulldown menu on top is done > > > > > but it requires a lot of horsepower to run. > > > > > > > > Please do not confuse the name of the browser with capabilities it > > > > might have. I can't use my bank's Internet banking website because it > > > > uses javascript with special processing for IE and Netscape and no > > > > default. The result is a blank page. > > > > > > > > Even js-capable browsers may have it turned off. > > > > > > > > I support the notion of supporting Javascript, but don't tie its use > > > > to any browser. If someone comes up with a js-capable lynx, let them > > > > use it with no messing around. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing > real-time communications platform! Don't just IM. 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