Dear Kulasekara, Firstly, you do not get yourself confused in this subject. I have never told that we must conquer other countries or other religions. Throughout my effort explaining about this subject is about protecting or Buddhist societies. Conquering others' religions and protecting one's own religion are two different subjects. And you have shown your complete blindness again, making a wrong conclusion as to why we lost all those former Buddhist countries. For your information, those former Buddhist countries and those Buddhist societies were completely wiped out, not because they did not live up to Buddhism, but only because they failed to identify the threats to Buddhism posed by Islam and therefore they could not take the necessary remedial actions to prevent the Islamisation agenda in those countries.
I have told you that by now we have already lost large parts in our own country to the Islamic expansion. Have you ever thought how come a Buddhist person is not allowed to settle down in many parts of our own Eastern region. Just to explain you the situation with just a simple one example out of hundreds, you are not allowed to buy a land in Kaathankudy area. I challenge anybody to prove if I am talking here anything beyond the truth. In those former Buddhist countries, people failed to identify the real threat and never bothered to study and to be concerned about "protecting Buddhism from the threats from other Religions", They simply ignored this area just like most Buddhists do in our country today. Any society that doesn't bother about the protection of their own existence, will never survive. That has been proven to the Buddhists throughout it's history of 2550 years with enough & more complete destructive evidences where the Buddhists have lost even the country where Buddha had lived and preached all his sermons. Even the generations who were directly related to the Buddha (Shaakya) are today converted to other religions. Will any other religion or it's followers, ever allow this type of humiliating destruction happen to their religions?? Why??? Why??? Why??? Are you still need to live like a blind & deaf person without thinking about the protection & survival of our beloved religion. Or do you think that it is fine with you, if you spend the life as a good Buddhist and die one day without ever thinking about saving our beloved religion to our future generations?. We do not have to declare war against other religions to save our Buddhism. All what we have to do is to seriously understand the destructive agenda of other religions against Buddhism and take necessary steps to block their agenda through non-violent measures. This is not declaring war against any religion, this is protecting our own religion in our own country. Time is very crucial for this noble duty and the present time is still in our favour. However, our future generations, either will have to go to war against the other religions or else simply accept the defeat and get exterminated in the future, if the present Buddhist generation ignore the danger and live like deaf & blind people thereby allowing the non-Buddhist religions to carry out their agenda in our own country. Let my efforts Theruwan Saranai, Priyantha Watudura On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Priyantha B Kulasekera <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Priyantha Watudura > > Thanks for your explanation and reply. If we too think like some humans who > live their lives to make conquests out of their greediness to be supreme > group, we will never realize what is right or what is wrong. If Buddhists in > those countries have been living according to the Buddha's preachings, then > this would have never happened. > > I think that we ought to start learning the real hard core teachings of > lord Buddha, which is still there in books (Thripitakaya is still there if > we want to read and understand). Until then, we will just argue over things > which will not even help to bring peace and harmoney among people at least > in a small country like Sri Lanka. > > Meththa > > Priyantha > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* priyantha watudura <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2009 8:46:59 AM > *Subject:* Re: :::SriCom: 1523 ::: Re: : Re: WHAT IS BUDDISM > > Yes Kulasekara, you are correct. No need to worry about the activities of > other religions against the existence of Buddhism, We must just wait without > thinking about it, just like the crabs in the pot on the fire. We could > have applied your theory for the Tamil terrorism as well. Aparade, api fight > kale. > About your suggestion to work towards enlightenment without worrying about > threats posed by other religions against the Buddhism, I have to tell you > that you are again correct in your assessment, because all the Buddhist > populations lived in Buddhist countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, > Bagladesh, Indonesia, Maldives and in many other former Budhist countries > have already achieved "enlightenment". I tell you, today not a > single Buddhist follower can be found in those countries who is still > looking for enlightenment. May be due to our bad Karma, still Sri > Lankan Buddhists have not been able to achieve enlightenment. Not yet, but I > am sure if we follow your method, very soon we will. > > Theruwan Saranai, > > Watudura > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Priyantha B Kulasekera < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> HI All >> >> It is good that this discussion is coming to an end. As Lord Buddha had >> said, in time to come people will no longer know or think of Buddhism and >> the rest of the cycle will come. Then after some time, again the cycle will >> turn and bring the awareness of how to emancipate and get enlightened under >> another Buddha. So in this moment of time, where do we stand in that cycle? >> >> >> So no need to worry about other religions or any other force which may act >> against Buddhism. If we are real Buddhists, then we should stop worrying >> about this obvious fact and start working towards enlightenment. On the >> other hand, if we are good Buddhists, then others will take us as an example >> and follow us and time this philosophy/religion existing on earth will be >> prolonged. >> >> Live like a Buddhist if you believe in Buddhism. >> >> Meththa >> >> Priyantha >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Nalin Bandara <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 1, 2009 7:19:03 AM >> *Subject:* :::SriCom: 1521 ::: Re: : Re: WHAT IS BUDDISM >> >> yes thats correct.best thing is not to talk about others.but i feel that >> we have to stand against to the people who are trying to discourage our >> people.it doesn't mean that we shoudl fight with them or no need to make >> any argument even.but we should try to make them understand the difference >> in betwen this with some kind of examples which anybody can understand well. >> >> if we think that these kind of things are not mention in the Buddhism and >> we shouldn't,one day we will worry abut ourselevs. >> so don't keep quiet..nothing will happen outomatically.. >> >> >> >> http://sig.graphicsfactory.com/"> >> >> >> --- On *Wed, 9/30/09, manjula wanasinghe <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: manjula wanasinghe <[email protected]> >> Subject: :::SriCom: 1509 ::: Re: : Re: WHAT IS BUDDISM >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 11:13 PM >> >> Correct. People, who live in certain mind frame, may not be able to see >> outside things and understand unless they have real requirement of >> understanding. Such people caught by themselves (egoism).People should >> understand themselves, and then they can understand Buddhism. Buddhism is >> understanding about yourself. >> >> But it is good to make understood people if they are going in wrong way. >> But there should not be any conflict in the process.Manjula >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Gayathri Seneviratne < >> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >>> Buddhism is meant to be for people who are not duds. If they don't get >>> it, they don't get it. There's no point trying to explain and make people >>> understand especially if they're not in an open frame of mind. And *some >>> *people who follow other religions are not open to anything else. This >>> may even apply to ourselves. >>> >>> Personally I feel that we should believe what we believe as Buddhists, >>> because we know what is right to believe but its not fair to talk about >>> other religions and what they do or not to do because I don't think Buddha >>> has ever mentioned dis-respecting another's belief. >>> >>> They have their reasons to believe in the religion they're in and we >>> should be able to be compassionate and we should be able to respect whatever >>> reasoning it is behind it. >>> >>> We know Karma exists.. And there are so many events that have occurred to >>> prove it. What goes around, comes around. Tic for tac. However you say it, >>> its the same for every being. >>> >>> And so we leave it at that. Because people must realize it themselves. >>> >>> Theruwan Saranai >>> >>> *:: I am, who you perceive me to be ::* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* priyantha watudura >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> *To:* >>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 17:43:54 >>> *Subject:* :::SriCom: 1499 ::: Re: : Re: WHAT IS BUDDISM >>> >>> Vijith, >>> You are totally wrong, when you say "non of the religion tell you to do >>> harm in your life". You are trying to use Buddhism as a "yardstick" to >>> measure other religions. I seriously advise you to go and study the >>> "principles" of other religions, specially the principles of "Islam". Then >>> you will see daytime stars. When you read other religion books, make sure >>> you do not read their "Promotional books". Read the source books, such as a >>> Koran, Sunna and hadith etc. >>> >>> While you commented with your half baked knowledge, did you know what >>> Koran has taught it's followers against the Apostates ( Those who leave >>> Islam) ? It says, if any follower decides to leave Islam, the other >>> followers must warn the Apostate ( the one who left Islam) to come back and >>> embrace Islam. Then if he doesn't come back, then behead him, kill him. And >>> the follower who Kills the apostate will be guaranteed by Allh that the door >>> of the "Heaven" will be widely opened for the person who slaughtered ( >>> killed) the apostate and he will be offered 72 virgins who will be waiting >>> for him in the Heaven. >>> >>> So, still you think that you can use "Buddhism" as a yardstick to measure >>> the nature of other religions??? >>> >>> Bye, >>> >>> Watudura >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Vijith Susantha < >>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>>> I can say one thing. non of religion tell to you to do harm in your >>>> life. but, everybody can say my religion is the best in the world. of >>>> course, that is our nature. bottom line, at the end of the day, All >>>> Religions in the world are trying to do & say the same. >>>> >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> Vijith Susantha. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto: >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Sumal Jayaranga >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:52 PM >>>> *To:* >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* :::SriCom: 1491 ::: : Re: WHAT IS BUDDISM >>>> >>>> My dear Friend, >>>> >>>> Buddhism is not a religion its a philosophy . there is no rules & >>>> regulation for the Buddhism. Some religion there is a rules . like Islam >>>> they definitely go to church every Friday. Catholic people go to church >>>> every Sunday . like those rules for the people. But Buddhist people >>>> doesn’t have any rules for coming temple or worshipped. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Sumal Jayaranga >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto: >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Varuna Chandrasiri >>>> *Sent:* 30 September 2009 09:49 >>>> *To:* is fairooz >>>> *Cc:* >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* :::SriCom: 1487 ::: Re: WHAT IS BUDDISM >>>> >>>> My dear *Friend* >>>> * * >>>> *Can you explain the differences which you mention with Islam and >>>> Buddhism pls ? * >>>> >>>> *Regards*** >>>> *__________________* >>>> *Varuna Chandrasiri*** >>>> >>>> *From:* is fairooz >>>> [mailto:[email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>] >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:12 AM >>>> *To:* >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>; >>>> Varuna Chandrasiri >>>> *Subject:* Re: :::SriCom: 1481 ::: WHAT IS BUDDISM >>>> >>>> *Hi Friends* >>>> >>>> *Nothing in the world Compere to ALLAH,please follow the ISLAM you see >>>> the differences from now itself please.** >>>> * >>>> >>>> On 9/29/09, *Varuna Chandrasiri* >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc359.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> *Regards* >>>> *__________________* >>>> *Varuna Chandrasiri* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> *Get FREE out going call time of up to 1000 minutes with Lanka Bell's >>>> Post Paid Infinity package. 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