On Mon Oct  6 12:13:16 2008, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:
You can, TCP does not loose bytes in the middle. You are sure all
stanzas _before_ the ping got trough.

Hmmm... You're sure all the octets got through, not whether they're going to be handled.

I'm afraid I'm with Pedro on this.

XEP-0198's acks offer rather more, because they confer an exchange of responsibility, not just data.

FWIW, while we're on the subject of reliability, lots of people seem to think that XEP-0198 doesn't provide it - it does provide hop-by-hop reliability. It doesn't provide either end-to-end reliability, nor does it make guarantees that stanzas will get through.

Reliability means knowing when things have conclusively worked, *or failed*.

(I'll have to tell my wife that, and explain that since I always forget to hang the washing out, I'm therefore technically reliable.)

Dave.
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