Is this politics-proof: "TTY (derived from teletypewriter) and text telephones"
I don't like it, but I am going to leave it unmodified (against M&M wishes) unless there's a consensus. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <[email protected]> wrote: > agree > > You can say > > TTY was derived from Teletypewriter - a device originally used by people who > are deaf to communicate. But today Teletypewriters no longer exist and TTY > is used to refer to a type of telecommunications device used by people who > are deaf that supports Baudot (and sometimes other coding schemes) over > analog phone lines. > > that however is probably too much history. but if you are using > Teletypewriter - that would be the \correct way to use it. > > > Gregg > -------------------------------------------------------- > Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. > Director Trace R&D Center > Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering > and Biomedical Engineering > University of Wisconsin-Madison > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Gunnar Hellström <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On 2012-08-22 22:58, Mark Rejhon wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Matthew Miller > <[email protected]> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 14:42, Mark Rejhon wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Matthew Miller > <[email protected]> wrote: > > * Teletypewriter (TTY) and Text Device for the Deaf (TDD) telephones > [citations recommended] > > Consulted with some peers. > > TTY expansion to Teletypewriter -- OK, good idea. > TDD is actually correctly "Telecommunications Device for the Deaf", > but it is deprecated usage right now by most U.S. accessibility > organizations, in favour of TTY. Europeans ofte use "textphones", and > variants thereof. > > Also, the phrase "text telephones" is more compatible and > self-explanatory with the European equivalent of TTY, "textphones". > > It's somewhat political behind the scenes in the various communities, > so changes to this bullet will need to be done very carefully. I > spent many hours rewording just the Introduction as a result. > > Mark Rejhon > > That's fine. I accept I operate under obsolete assumptions sometimes (-: > > But it's important that all acronyms are expanded the first time they are > used, and even better to include an authoritative citation. > > Oh, you might also be remembering I had > > ... "TTY and text telephones for the deaf". > > But I removed "for the deaf", when Peter/Kevin (one or both) > complained about three mentions of the word "deaf" due to the > overemphasis on the word, despite its clear application there. So I > toned it down somewhat, reducing three mentions of "deaf" in > Introduction to just one mention. > > I do not think expansion of TTY to Teletypewriter is a good idea. That tends > to mean the other use of the term TTY, the device that was often used as a > computer operator console terminal a long time ago and still lives in > language around such usage. > > So TTY in this usage is more " A term used in North America for text > telephones, i.e. devices used for text and audio communication in the PSTN > mainly with deaf and hard-of-hearing persons." > > Text telephones or textphones is the international term used by ITU-T ( E.g. > V.18 and F.703 ) 3GPP ( e.g. TS 22.226 ) > IETF ( e.g. RFC 4734 ). > Various countries in Europe have different names for the concept in their > national languages, so text telephone is not specifically European. > > I hope it is clear by combining TTY with text telephone what it referred to, > so that we do not need to drag in a long descriptions of a peripheral item > into the spec. > > Gunnar > >
