Am 10.08.2015 um 22:11 schrieb Dave Cridland:
On 10 August 2015 at 18:37, Dominik Renzel <[email protected]> wrote:Nice compilation, Dave. As one of the guys from xmppresearch.org, I might add a bit from the academic side. There is quite a body of literature available on XMPP research (and - yes, we keep collecting!). We're currently working on a survey paper on a collection of XMPP research from 2003 till today. I can't reveal too much, but a little bit of overview allows me to wield the academagic battle-axe at least for two myths. Myth Two: Although I don't know if the scientific use of XMPP extensions mirrors practical deployment, I would assume that there are certain similarities. In response to a request during this year's summit in Diegem, Belgium, my dear colleague Daniel Schuster from TU Dresden created a tag cloud of the XEPs in scientific use, extracted from 250 different papers: http://www.xmppresearch.org/posts/xeps-used-in-xmpp-research/That's awesome; I'll link to that in the Myth Two section.Myth Three: There is quite some scientific evidence on the use of XMPP in bandwidth-critical, mobile settings, especially in the last five years. You find literature on mobile sensor networks, mobile apps, IoT, etc., some of them applied in disaster scenarios with no or very impaired public communication infrastructure. Bandwidth-efficiency is hardly ever mentioned as a problem.Yes, I'll poke about and see how much of the use-cases I'm aware of can be talked about openly, since there's sectors using XMPP over low-bandwidth for mission-critical messaging that are really eye-opening - and I didn't even know about the disaster cases - links would be great.
About the disaster cases:Klauck, Ronny; Gäbler, Jan; Kirsche, Michael; Schoepke, Sebastian (2011): Mobile XMPP and Cloud Service Collaboration: An Alliance for Flexible Disaster Management. In: 7th International Conference on Collaborative Computing: Networking, Applications and Worksharing, CollaborateCom 2011, Orlando, FL, USA, 15-18 October, 2011, pp. 201–210, IEEE, 2011.
Link: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=6144805Klauck, Ronny; Kirsche, Michael (2012): XMPP to the Rescue: Enhancing Post Disaster Management and Joint Task Force Work. In: Pervasive Computing and Communications Workshops (PERCOM Workshops), 2012 IEEE International Conference on, pp. 752–757, IEEE, 2012.
Link: http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/PerComW.2012.6197613Klauck, Ronny; Kirsche, Michael (2013): Combining Mobile XMPP Entities and Cloud Services for Collaborative Post-Disaster Management in Hybrid Network Environments. In: Mobile Networks and Applications - The Journal of SPECIAL ISSUES on Mobility of Systems, Users, Data and Computing, 18 (2), pp. 253 – 270, 2013.
Link: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11036-012-0391-1 About Mobile & IoT applications of XMPP in research:Go to http://www.xmppresearch.org/bibliography/ and check the tag cloud on top of the page. "Mobile" is THE top tag (with 56 papers from 2004-now). For IoT we collected 30 papers from 2009-now. By clicking on the tags, you get the full list. By following links you at least get the abstracts. For reading the full paper, you'll most likely slam against the paywall.
Best, Dominik
Best, Dominik Am 10.08.2015 um 18:02 schrieb Dave Cridland:I've noticed that a large well-funded group have been attending a number of conferences and making unfortunately ill-informed statements about XMPP, in favour of their own solution in a number of spaces in which we overlap. In conformity with Napoleon's suggestion that one should never attribute to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence, I have tried to address these statements directly, but sadly while representatives of the organization were willing to agree they would correct their website, they have remained too incompetent to do so. This is terribly unfortunate, and so to help address this I knocked up some answers to specific "myths" on a Wiki page, intended (by me) as a draft blog post (but it could just as well stay on the Wiki, get reused as website content, or whatever). It's here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/index.php?title=Myths Suggestions and corrections would be very much welcome; feel free to either edit directly, or (possibly preferable) discuss in the XSF chatroom at [email protected] Thanks! Dave.
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