On 31 March 2017 at 11:37, Daniel Gultsch <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think it is relatively fair to assume that a company or individual who
> is able to create a Non-GPL implementation of the Double Ratchet will not
> fail to do so just because of a missing XEdDSA implementation.


I implemented ODR before it used X3DH, and I'm now blocked by XEdDSA.


>  If someone fails to implement XEdDSA they probably shouldn't implement
> ODR.


I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Apart from the practical fact that that
would require forking many low-level primitives from crypto-libraries, I'm
pretty sure asking protocol devs like me to combine those into their own
crypto primitive is about as responsible as asking them to build a
parachute for base jumping: there's a good chance it'll open, but I'm
pretty sure there will be casualties. There's a reason this stuff is left
to crypto professionals.

cheers,
Remko
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