On Sunday 07 Aug 2005 21:26, Paul Wehr wrote:
9In response to my query about Linux on Starmax)
>
> Years ago, I installed Yellow Dog Linux on my StarMax, but since the
> Max was my primary machine, I didn't explore it fully. Running dual
> boot, it took some fancy modifications to the firmware to get it
> working.
>
> I don't know what you were trying to install, 

The latest version of Ubuntu.. apologies, I should have said..

> but you will find 
> extensive Linux information at <http://www.LinuxQuestions.org>. In a
> general search for Yellow Dog, I turned up 277 topics. The single
> reference I read was recent. One person wasn't happy with YDL on
> their beige G3 and another suggested Ubuntu. There is a version of
> Ubuntu that will run from a booted CD so you can check out the look
> and feel as well as a few hardware options.

Oh, I know what Ubuntu is like - I use Mandriva Linux (with KDE as the 
front-end) as my primary OS, and on my secondary PC, I experiment with other 
OS's, including other flavours of Linux.  Just so's people understand that 
I'm not trolling or suchlike - my inital use of computers was Amigas, and 
they are staill a benchmark for stability and ease of use, for me, although 
Linux has started surpassing the old Amiga OS in some respects. Then I used a 
WinPC for some years, which wasn't fun at all.  Knowing that Amiga OS was 
based on Unix, and that Linux was a form of Unix, I kept an eye on what was 
happening with Linux, until a year or so ago, I decided I was ready to switch 
to Linux. Never could afford a Mac, unfortunately.  Wouldn't have the Starmax 
if a workmates husband hadnt been about to literally throw it out, for space 
reasons. 

Anyway, what has astounded me, given Apples reputation over the years, and the 
Macs in particular, is how awfully clunky OS9 on the Mac is. Aaaargh!  Nicer 
than Windows, to be sure, but then that isn't hard. But IMHO it is one of the 
strangest OS's to use I;ve ever encountered, and I don't see it as being 
particularly easy to use at all!  Case of what one is used to? Perhaps - but 
I have tried quiet a variety of OS's and front ends thereto over the last 25 
years.  Perhaps it just doesn't suit my "style" (shrugs) - whatever, it's a 
lovely piece of hardware, and I'd genuinely regret having to give it away, 
but unless I can get some sensible use out of it - which I can't so long as 
it runs OS9 - it WILL have to go. 

>
> My Max still does OS 9.1 and serves my wife's purposes. I've got an
> *old* PC running Fedora Core 3. I only use it as a server. The
> software all seems to be written by Windoze Refugees(tm) so most of
> it is just as clunky as stuff that comes out of Redmond. For any real
> work, I do it on a Mac.

(chuckle...) The Linux software scene has grown enormously over the last 
couple of years, and depending on the window manager one uses, it can be made 
to look and feel like just about any OS you like. I;ve had fun setting up 
test users on one of my PCs that look and feel more or less like various 
other OS's: Win2000, Amiga OS, Mac OSX.  The only piece of Linux software I 
really can't stand so far is The Gimp, which IMO has a truly wretched user 
interface. 
>
> I would spend some time on LinuxQuestions and follow links for Linux
> on PPC. Join in the fray, ask questions, take notes. 

Sigh... damn, I was hoping you wouldn't say that, though I was half expecting 
it - more than half. Thing is, I've plenty of other calls on my time, and if 
getting the Starmax running something usable involves too much time and 
effort - out it goes. 

Here's a question you might be able to answer - why won;t the Starmax boot 
from CD, given that the CD I'm using IS a bootable one and does have a PPC 
operating system on it? Any ideas? 

> As in other 
> locations, most people don't have a clue what a StarMax is, you it
> might be good to keep your references to the PowerMac 4400.
>
> Keep in touch with the list, I for one would be curious to hear your
> successful results.

Well, thanks for the advice and the kind thoughts - I'll give it a month to 
see if I can get some kind of result. Weirdest thing was I wrote to Linux 
format recently, and for some bizarre reason they picked it as letter of the 
month, and awarded me a T-shirt  (strange, as they don't have my address!) 
and then published a rather useless response.  

Sigh... I hate seeing good hardware go to waste. And the Starmax is rather 
more aesthetically pleasing physically than the vast majority of computers 
I've seen.  Still has to earn its keep, though... :-}

Many thanks, Paul, aye, I'll let the list know how I get on.
> --
> Paul Wehr
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