Il y a une chose que je ne comprends pas "Entreprise" rencontre les Ferengis un siecle avant TOS et 2 avant TNG. On va oublier TOS qui ne parle pas d'eux mais on va dire qu il n'avait pas de relation avec eux. Mais Picard (qui semble les connaitre quand il les renconte) combat un de leur vaisseau et ne sais pas que c'est un vaisseau ferengis. AV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herv� Tourmen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: [startrek-fr] Re: Enterprise
Moi je partage enti�rement l'opinion exprim�e l�: Enterprise est extr�mement d�cevante. C'est vrai que l� encore, dans le dernier �pisode voil� les Ferengis qui d�barquent et Archer sait d'instinct qu'ils sont des commercants inv�t�r�s. Jamais entendu dire que les Ferengis avaient �t� d�couverts aussi t�t. T'Pol elle m'�nerve carr�ment avec ses grosse l�vres: Autant Seven of Nine �tait parfaitement cr�dible en tant qu'ex-borg � la plastique superbe, autant T'Pol donne l'impression que les vulcains ont choisi un top model un peu concon pour envoyer sur le vaisseau terrien repr�senter Vulcain et c'est ridicule �bidemment. Tout �a pour refaire Spock qui aurait de nouveaux arguments pour faire avaler sa "logique". Bakula, dont j'attendais beaucoup est d�cevant dans le sens o� il n'est pas assez fort pour porter la s�rie. Mais le pire, ce sont quand m�me les histoires (m�me si j'en ai d�ja parl�): Carr�ment incroyables de simplicit� pour une s�rie de SF. J'ai d�ja dit que j'ai vu un �pisode dans lequel l'Enterprise rencontre des extra terrestres qui sont m�chants. Mais Archer a une autre opinion: Peut-�tre sont-ils gentils? Et paf, il s'av�re qu'il a raison, une fois de plus! Tout le monde se dit au revoir, fin de l'�pisode. D�sol�, mais Roddenberry nous avait habitu� � des surprises, pas seulement raconter des histoires simplistes sous pretexte que le traitement plus "r�aliste" donne un autre �clairage. Seule chose que j'aime bien: le vaisseau mais c'est loin d'�tre suffisant. Ils ont inter�t de se ressaisir, sinon il est clair qu'il n'y aura pas d'autre saison. :-( Herv� ------------------------------------------ Stardate: Unknown ----------------------------------------- http://www.tourmen.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:36734634 CUseeme user --------------------- Picard: No, Will, we can't! We have to save humanity!! le 28/03/02 20:45, Alary Paul s'exprimait ainsi: > > Copier coller d'un mess qui est pass� sur le forum americain ou je suis. > Desole c'est en anglais, mais c'est interessant et il y a des traducteurs > pour ceux qui ne parlent pas anglais: > http://babelfish.altavista.com/ > http://www.reverso.net/textonly/default.asp > babylon, etc... > > Paul > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> going to be cancelled, please list a few of the things that you >> would change about the show if you could to make it more watchable >> by other Trekkies. This isn't really an essay question but more > of >> a survey of how we as a Trek unit feel about something. If you >> haven't seen the show I'm sure you've heard everyone griping about >> it. If you don't like it here's your chance to let loose. If you >> do like it here's your chance to let loose. Remember while open >> debate is welcome here, we won't argue over any points. >> >> T'Kuht > > Well, I guess I'll lead off since I'm already logged on here. > Overall I enjoy the show. There are things that don't gel with the > original series or even TNG, but the original series didn't gel with > the original series on more than numerous occasions. For example, > the animated episodes are more canonical to me than Star Trek V. > Oh, in case people aren't aware of what is considered Trek canon. > If it has been put on film, except the animated episodes, it is > supposed to be considered to be canon by those that know and shape > the show. I think that is one thing that people don't like about > Enterprise. It has taken what we previously knew or thought of and > either changed it or completely disregarded it. Some of this is > necessary in order to perpetuate the series, i.e. the technology. > Unless we want Enterprise to look as campy and dumb as The Munsters > or The Monkees, we've got to understand that the technology area was > a major problem. The main problem I have is T'Pol. I don't dislike > the way Jolene Blalock portrays her as such. We've never seen a > full Vulcan female in a long term role such as this. I object to the > makeup and costume people behind the set who decided what she is > supposed to look like. I do not believe the cat suit would be what > she would normally wear on Vulcan. It is a desert planet and > therefore she would roast quickly in that outfit. All the other > clothing we've seen has been loose and flowing, with the exception > of Spock's wedding, but that was ceremony. I object to her outward > appearance I suppose versus her inward appearance. Anyway, that's > what I can think of for now...have to go to work so I'll think about > it some more... > > T'Kuht > > > > StarTrek-fr, la mailing list francophone - inscription, d�sinscription, > informations : www.unification-online.org (rubrique mailing list) > StarTrek-fr, la mailing list francophone - inscription, d�sinscription, informations : www.unification-online.org (rubrique mailing list) StarTrek-fr, la mailing list francophone - inscription, d�sinscription, informations : www.unification-online.org (rubrique mailing list)
