Hi Tom,
It is the keystroke equivalents that are magic.
The menus after a while are just a help display.
Sub-menus can be used to make things fit on a small display.
Ed


On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Thomas Morris wrote:

> Hi Ed,
> 
> I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop-down
> menu would be more intuitive although I'm no expert on GUI design.
> Bear in mind that non-numerical information needs translations unless
> you use icons, potentially causing layout problems. Also drop-down
> menus wouldn't fit on a small screen (e.g. smartphone).
> 
> Thanks,
> Thomas
> 
> On 19 March 2012 21:14,  <edtak...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hi Thomas and Brian,
>> 
>> I think the way to do this one, as well as make the user interface both more
>> facile and intuitive, is with drop-down menus.
>> I put a draft of my idea at  takken.us/stellarium, but need to do more to
>> explain it.
>> I suggest that the present slide bars are an encumbrance for the user.
>> 
>> Ed Takken
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Thomas Morris wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> Perhaps this could be implemented as a plug-in? ("extended DSO
>> controls" or something like that). Personally I would like some
>> extended controls particularly for making full use of the new NGC data
>> catalogue. (Galaxy display based on surface brightness for example,
>> which would certainly be useful for objects at low altitude.)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Thomas
>> 
>> On 19 March 2012 17:03, Bogdan Marinov <daggers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:48 AM, bdwashbu <bdwas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Cool!
>> 
>> 
>> I have a prototype image here:
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/81471534@N00/6848489598/lightbox/
>> 
>> 
>> Oh, my, more interface clutter. While users have requested a way to
>> 
>> select which categories of DSOs are displayed, I think that a separate
>> 
>> slider for each is overkill.
>> 
>> 
>> Also, a comment on a previous question of yours:
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 March 2012 14:15, bdwashbu <bdwas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I also think that the sliders should be ticked and a label show their
>> 
>> current value, because I'm not even sure what their value currently
>> 
>> represents. (I assume apparent magnitude)
>> 
>> 
>> The sliders are deliberately unitless and don't represent apparent
>> 
>> magnitude. Instead, they control the number of objects shown on the
>> 
>> screen with a somewhat unclear formula which includes apparent
>> 
>> magnitude and dynamic eye adaptation.
>> 
>> 
>> Please also have in mind that one of the reasons Stellarium is popular
>> 
>> with educators and people who are total beginners in astronomy is the
>> 
>> simplicity of its interface. New features should be carefully
>> 
>> designed. Just slapping hack over hack as has been the tendency
>> 
>> recently won't lead to anything good. We already kicked out the
>> 
>> planetarium users, let's not alienate more groups.
>> 
>> 
>> Bogdan
>> 
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