Nicolas Williams pisze:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:49:38PM +0200, Cyril Plisko wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Bob Friesenhahn
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>     
>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Maciej Browarski wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hello,
>>>> What are benefits of using OpenSolaris on S7000, because when I using
>>>> fishworks I can't login to OpenSolaris. (or is this possible but not so
>>>> simple?)
>>>>         
>>> This is an "appliance" "firmware" type product. You are not supposed
>>> to be aware that OpenSolaris is inside or modify it in any way beyond
>>> what the administrative interfaces support or add-on hardware that Sun
>>> may offer.
>>>       
>> FWIW, I have recently heard a totally different story from a highly
>> ranked Sun official. The fact that a general purpose OS (Solaris) is
>> inside (which allows for 3rd party add-ons) was pitched as a major
>> differentiator.
>>     
>
> It is a major differentiator, but that does NOT mean that the OS is
> directly accessible to users[*].
>
> There is no need for users to access any Solaris shell directly on the
> Sun storage appliance.
>
> Nico
>
> [*] Actually, it is directly accessible to users, but accessing the OS
>     directly voids your warranty and renders the system unsupportable.
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Sorry, what I writing below, but I was on customer site using simulator and:
1. fishworks is nice (for first look and first use and for newbie ) but
- not so flex ( only one storage pool, hanging when creating pool - how 
to about this operations?, how to restart only GUI without restarting 
server, can't view contents filestystems without mounting that) 
- don't have many net protocols (where is ssh, scp, sftp, rsync and other)
- have C-like, PERL-like scripts and whatever like.Sorry, but  I don't  
have  time to learn new  language, which is only in this appliance.

For me useful option in CLI is 'shell' command,why:
- I can run wget to download big *.iso site, which can I very fast share 
with other on ftp protocol.(this is very useful to make mirrors site).
-  I can restart fishworks,
- useful commands like ifconfig, arp,ping -s
- make more DTrace scripts,
- make jumpstart, and so on,
- copy PERL,BASH scripts from Linux box, which make any synchronization 
between many sites.
- I have crontab to wget's,scp from other site.

So,why need I fishworks ? Because this is for newbie and not so 
technical person, and we can fast make first running and useful 
configuration. (this is very good argument, that in 5 minutes, in nice 
GUI, I can configuring Pool, User and FTP and CIFS). But other 
appliance  can  this too.

Conclusion:
OpenStorage 7000 with fishworks is like other NAS (almost these same 
features), but not so fast because we using full Operating Systems.
We WIN with OpenStorage to other because customer have big storage which 
can scripts and configuring how he like, and is not limited to 
'firmware' operating systems.  (look to Wireless Router: LinkSys WRT-54 
systems, where you can load Linux systems and make things how to you like).

So, closing way to log in to shell you will cut branch on which you sit.

Regards,
Maciej







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