So there's a new group people looking for stove designs that have mainly been visiting the web site so far. They have learned a little about biochar, and they are interested in it, but they haven't really figured out how it works. They like the idea of a cooking stove and they are trying to make a biochar making cooking stove that they can use in their own community. They are brand new stove enthusiasts, and with a little help from us, they can do a good job making efficient stoves.
I'm working hard to try to meet the needs to this type of stove designer because I think it's a great way to share the wealth of information and experience we have and foster a new generation of stove users and creators. To sum up, they are new and they are looking for 'biochar stoves,' and I think they've gone ahead and aptly named a class of stoves that will use fuel efficiently, hopefully emit less, and produce a helpful byproduct. I generally tell them how wonderful and helpful you all are before I direct them to the list. :-) Cheers, Erin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: 09/16/2012 12:44 PM To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Stoves] FW: Need designs Kevin: I think we all know what Aron meant in asking about a biochar stove. His first message, responded to by Erin, was very clear. You are creating considerable confusion with two comments I respond to below. From: "Kevin C" <[email protected]> To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:16:59 AM Subject: Re: [Stoves] FW: Need designs Dear Ron Quoting [email protected]: > Aron: > > Can you clarify your intended design? I know of no way that you can > turn a rocket stove into a char-making stove (but would love to hear > differently). # A "char making stove" is only relevant in a case where the person wants a cooking/heating function, and ending up with a charcoal residue is acceptable or desirable. In many cases, the production of residual charcoal is undesirable. # There is a lot of confusion with the term "biochar stove." 1: It is not possible to have a "biochar stove." One can certainly have a stove that produces "charcoal", but charcoal only becomes "biochar" when it is used in an agricultural application. A TLUD stove is not a "biochar stove"... it is a stove that produces charcoal that may or may not end up being used as biochar. 2: In that we have a "wood stove", a "kerosene stove", a "charcoal stove", etc, the term "biochar stove" could simply be a stove that is fueled with char, charcoal, biochar, etc. [RWL: You (correctly) denied this sentence's validity with your above (now-underlined, italicized and bolded) phrase. Fueling a stove with biochar is not an "agricultural application".. # Is Aron perhaps designing a stove that is fueled with charcoal? [RWL: Obviously not - see his first message (below) to the list. I wish that whole topic could disappear from this list - as it is usually so wasteful of biomass. Ron] Kevin > > Ron . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aron Tjihumino " > To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:48:07 AM > Subject: [Stoves] FW: Need designs > > > Can you help me on how to analyse heat tranfer through a cone... Im > designing a Biochar stove with coencentric cylinders. In essence its a > rocket stove. I want to make the inner cylinder conic so that i can retain > more heat in the stove.... > The books i have read dont show me how to analyse conduction and convection > in a cone... > Will need a reply as soon as possible, if your able to help. > Thank you in advance... > > > On 8/10/12, Erin Rasmussen <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Aron, >> >> We have the TLUD Handbook is on our web site here: >> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/tludhandbookdraft-1 >> >> a shorter link directly to the handbook pdf file is >> http://bit.ly/NhrZWX >> >> Plans for the Anila stove are here: >> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/anila >> >> I hope that helps, let me know if I can be of any assitance. >> >> Kind regards, >> Erin Rasmussen >> >> TR Miles Technical Consultants Inc. http://www.trmiles.com/ >> and BioEnergy Discussion Lists http://www.bioenergylists.org/ >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Aron Tjihumino [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:59 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Need designs >> >> Afternoon... >> I'm Aron Tjihumino, a final year Bachelor of Engineering: Mechanical >> Engineering Student at the Polytechnic of Namibia, Namibia >> >> I am desgining a biochar and i need plans from where to start. >> Can you please email me plans for Anila And Anderson TLUD biochar >> stove, please Look forward to hearing from you soon. >> kind regards >> >> Aron Tjihumino >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://www.bioenergylists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Stoves mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: http://www.bioenergylists.org/ _______________________________________________ Stoves mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: http://www.bioenergylists.org/
