Dear Erin and all,,
Thank you for cultivating the newcomers to consider biochar stoves.
Most of us who are heavily involved with gasifier stoves try to have
transparency, and try to offer assistance to all who inquire.
When appropriate, please provide (or have the newcomers provide) some
details about their interests, timetables, desired sizes of projects,
experiences, etc. so that information specific to their interests can be
provided.
Paul
Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: [email protected] Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: www.drtlud.com
On 9/16/2012 5:27 PM, Erin Rasmussen wrote:
So there's a new group people looking for stove designs that have mainly been
visiting the web site so far. They have learned a little about biochar, and
they are interested in it, but they haven't really figured out how it works.
They like the idea of a cooking stove and they are trying to make a biochar
making cooking stove that they can use in their own community. They are brand
new stove enthusiasts, and with a little help from us, they can do a good job
making efficient stoves.
I'm working hard to try to meet the needs to this type of stove designer
because I think it's a great way to share the wealth of information and
experience we have and foster a new generation of stove users and creators.
To sum up, they are new and they are looking for 'biochar stoves,' and I think
they've gone ahead and aptly named a class of stoves that will use fuel
efficiently, hopefully emit less, and produce a helpful byproduct. I generally
tell them how wonderful and helpful you all are before I direct them to the
list. :-)
Cheers,
Erin
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
Date: 09/16/2012 12:44 PM
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] FW: Need designs
Kevin:
I think we all know what Aron meant in asking about a biochar stove. His
first message, responded to by Erin, was very clear. You are creating
considerable confusion with two comments I respond to below.
From: "Kevin C" <[email protected]>
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:16:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Stoves] FW: Need designs
Dear Ron
Quoting [email protected]:
Aron:
Can you clarify your intended design? I know of no way that you can
turn a rocket stove into a char-making stove (but would love to hear
differently).
# A "char making stove" is only relevant in a case where the person
wants a cooking/heating function, and ending up with a charcoal
residue is acceptable or desirable. In many cases, the production of
residual charcoal is undesirable.
# There is a lot of confusion with the term "biochar stove."
1: It is not possible to have a "biochar stove." One can certainly
have a stove that produces "charcoal", but charcoal only becomes
"biochar" when it is used in an agricultural application. A TLUD stove
is not a "biochar stove"... it is a stove that produces charcoal that
may or may not end up being used as biochar.
2: In that we have a "wood stove", a "kerosene stove", a "charcoal
stove", etc, the term "biochar stove" could simply be a stove that is
fueled with char, charcoal, biochar, etc.
[RWL: You (correctly) denied this sentence's validity with your above
(now-underlined, italicized and bolded) phrase. Fueling a stove with biochar is not an
"agricultural application"..
# Is Aron perhaps designing a stove that is fueled with charcoal?
[RWL: Obviously not - see his first message (below) to the list. I wish
that whole topic could disappear from this list - as it is usually so wasteful
of biomass. Ron]
Kevin
Ron .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aron Tjihumino "
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:48:07 AM
Subject: [Stoves] FW: Need designs
Can you help me on how to analyse heat tranfer through a cone... Im
designing a Biochar stove with coencentric cylinders. In essence its a
rocket stove. I want to make the inner cylinder conic so that i can retain
more heat in the stove....
The books i have read dont show me how to analyse conduction and convection
in a cone...
Will need a reply as soon as possible, if your able to help.
Thank you in advance...
On 8/10/12, Erin Rasmussen <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Aron,
We have the TLUD Handbook is on our web site here:
http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/tludhandbookdraft-1
a shorter link directly to the handbook pdf file is
http://bit.ly/NhrZWX
Plans for the Anila stove are here:
http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/anila
I hope that helps, let me know if I can be of any assitance.
Kind regards,
Erin Rasmussen
TR Miles Technical Consultants Inc. http://www.trmiles.com/
and BioEnergy Discussion Lists http://www.bioenergylists.org/
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Aron Tjihumino [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Need designs
Afternoon...
I'm Aron Tjihumino, a final year Bachelor of Engineering: Mechanical
Engineering Student at the Polytechnic of Namibia, Namibia
I am desgining a biochar and i need plans from where to start.
Can you please email me plans for Anila And Anderson TLUD biochar
stove, please Look forward to hearing from you soon.
kind regards
Aron Tjihumino
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