Paul,
first of all, have a look to a picture of a rotameter. So it is easier to 
explain:

http://www.electro-mation.de/schwebekoerperdurchflussmesser.html

If you use a rotameter, you cannot use a fan to admit the forced air. You must 
have somehow really compressed air. The pressure must be much higher than the 
fracture of one mm H20 in a stove.   The air is (variable) restricted very much 
before the air-column of the rotameter , so that through the measure-part of 
the rotameter flows  nothing (when closed) or e.g. 100ml of air or 2 liters or 
4 liters; as you turn more on or off these restriction. The rotameter column 
only shows you, (by a floating weight on the air- or fluid-column) how much air 
or gas or water flows per minute.

In low tech,  you could use a screw-clamp, which quenches an elastic tube. 
By doing this, the resistance of the burning-chamber is so small, that it 
nearly does not alter the pressured air-flow per minute. 

This system with rotameters was used in anesthesia-equipment, to have a 
continuos ( and/but changeable !) rate of  fresh oxygen, N2O or air coming into 
the circular breathing system.
This circular-system has always different pressures during artificial breathing 
-(by inspiration pressure plus; by exspiration pressure zero). 
Normally between  0cm H2O and  20cm H2O- column. It can exceed up to: say 49 cm 
H2O without altering remarkable the incoming amount per time of fresh oxygen or 
air or N2O.
When you see these pressure-numbers, it is clear, that it would work in stoves 
as well, because the pressures are remarkable lower. I think if you could use 
pressurized air,  a pressure with  minimum 1 meter water-column  (0,1 bar) 
could work.  You could get an air-stream, which is _relatively_ not dependent 
from different resistance within the fuel-stack.
If you would take an inflated inner car-tire (the bigger the tire the better ), 
good inflated, you had enough air with high pressure to feed a TLUD with 
primary air for a long time, without lowering the tire-pressure too much, 
giving a (nearly) constant air-flow. The flow-rate would be regulated by a  
screw-clamp, squeezing a flexible hose. - Behind that clamp you would have the 
a rotameter-column. But you can do without a rotameter:

Bubble through that hose the air into water and fill a dumped, water-filled 
glass with these bubbles, to measure the amount of air. Count the amount per 
minute and regulate the bubbling to your wish/need.  In this setting, you know 
the primary-air you get out of that hose sufficient exact. Naturally you must 
separate primary- and secondary-air. You could force the secondary air by a 
normal fan, if you want to have artificial draft.  Primary- and secondary-air 
would be to regulate each practically independent from the other. 
The most important is, that you know the amount of primary air, and so you know 
the primary-air per square-section. 
-And that is the point you want to change in the system, because different 
primary air gives the different amount of produced "smoke"-
You can adjust the TLUD-burn as you want, to look for its best performance. 
-And you get to know the numbers when it best performs.

Mind: measuring the primary air-pressure does not give you the 
air-amount-numbers you want (or better you must have ) to know.  You must know 
the flow number according to the square-section and look to the performance. So 
you get to know the right amount.
 
At the end rises the simple question: How many liters primary-air per minute 
per square-section needs a TLUD  for excellent burning?

Regards
Martin





Am 07.05.2013 um 17:18 schrieb Paul Anderson <[email protected]>:

> Martin,
> 
> Where would you place the rotometer?   Most fans / blowers create 
> back-pressure (and back flows) that do not go to the fuel stack?
> 
> I do not have experience with nor possession of a rotometer.   For this I 
> also need guidance.   It would be nice to include this in the experiments at 
> Aprovecho Stove Camp this summer.    And there we can also do experiments 
> with different layers of fuels.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
> Email:  [email protected]   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
> 
> On 5/7/2013 2:22 AM, Boll, Martin Dr. wrote:
>> Paul,
>> 
>> I do not expect to get much energy, but the performance would be 
>> interesting. Even if there is different rate of mixture in different layers 
>> of the TLUD, you could get different outputs, and do that in mind the needs 
>> of the cooking-proceedure.
>> Upper layer charcoal, to get ignition without smoke, than fuel with few 
>> charcoal as space-filler, than charcoal with (one have to experiment the 
>> rate of fuel/charcoal) fuel-bits, possibly a sort of raw saw-dust. And at 
>> the bottom just some charcoal to finish without smoke.
>>  If you allow only the amount air liters per minute to pass the rotameter 
>> and so the TLUD-primary (naturally you have to separate primary from 
>> secondary.air)
>> you know exactly the rate of air. You have to calculate the free space in 
>> order to get the real air-speed in this area.
>> I think even if that is naturally not the true surface-speed on the fuel, it 
>> is a good number to deal with.
>> Even if you don't have the right number, you could calculate from one 
>> good-working TLUD to another which has a different Square-flat.
>> Mind: The high of the fuel stack does not count, because the flow-rate is 
>> limited by the rotameter and not by the fuel-stack, because you work with a 
>> relatively high pressure and the flow is limited by the high resistance 
>> regulated by the rotameter.
>> 
>> Little bit in hurry-.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>> Am 07.05.2013 um 04:35 schrieb Paul Anderson <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> Martin,
>>> 
>>> Concerning "space fillers", I and probably others have put wood chips and 
>>> small pieces into TLUDs where there is otherwise too much space between the 
>>> main biomass fuel pieces.   Yes, the chips do pyrolyze.
>>> 
>>> But my point is that making small pieces of biomass for filler can be 
>>> difficult.   But using char pieces from previous TLUD batches is very easy. 
>>>   But just do not expect to get much energy from the charcoal filler, 
>>> because it has already been pyrolyzed.
>>> 
>>> Concerning your comment/question about measuring the flow of primary air, 
>>> it is not sufficient to measure characteristics of the fan/blower/pump 
>>> because the holes in the bottom of the TLUD are intentionally small and the 
>>> fuel is intended to (expected to) block some of the flow.   What is needed 
>>> is to measure the flow INSIDE the fuel cylinder, such as in the bottom 2 cm 
>>> of fuel. But how to do that?
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
>>> Email:  [email protected]   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>>> 
>>> On 5/6/2013 3:56 PM, Boll, Martin Dr. wrote:
>>>> TLUD-ers turn it as you want;
>>>> Charcoal as space-filler means  __somehow__  that "mixed fuel" is used in 
>>>> a TLUD.  From that aspect it is a "hybrid-fuelled" TLUD.
>>>> Change the ratio of the "hybrid-fuelled" TLUD  to:  wood-pieces as 
>>>> space-filler (by charcoal-packing). Run this different mixture and look.
>>>> Who did this already? Interesting to hear about.
>>>> - It would be as well interesting to know the difference in performance 
>>>> between test-runs with natural draft and with forced air.
>>>> 
>>>> Even by that different ratio, the burn can be stopped after outgassing, to 
>>>> get as final result charcoal.
>>>> 
>>>> - Hybrid-fuelled TLUDs would get probably a better quality of resulting 
>>>> charcoal  ( Frank, mentioned that as important difference for bio-char)
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. We could stop guessing about the amount of more or less _primary air_ 
>>>> (caused by the minimal pressure of a fan or natural draft in 
>>>> different-dense TLUD-packages), and make an exact air-dosage by a 
>>>> rotameter, or less expansive and simpler by an aquarium-air-pump.
>>>> 
>>>> Martin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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