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Mayor Kelly said he'd spend whatever it takes to shut them up (or something
to that effect). Surely he could be convinced to spend whatever it takes
to make them safe instead.
When my friends fell through the ice and drowned, we didn't fill in the
lake. They wouldn't have wanted that, I'm sure.
Count me in for one CO detector, 20 feet of duct-work, one solar-powered
fan, 3 canaries (or I suppose mourning doves will work, since they're to be
killed off anyway), and 4 hours of gate-keeping.
AMH
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Should the caves be sealed or opened?
First a complete survey of the caves needs to be done. Remember most
of these caves were built as places to store things (beer mostly) in
a controlled environment in the mid-later part of the 1800's . They
were one of the first things really built to stay in St Paul. I
doubt that there has never been a complete survey to determine the
extent of their size, which varies, air vents that were put in (yea
even back then they new they needed ventilation of some sort), and
find basically every nook and cranny of them. There are alot of
them, it will cost money to do this properly and completely.
Should we be able to discover all of the openings they can be sealed.
Air vents can be filled with concrete. You can look at the cliffs
along the W7th side of the River and see that concrete blocks and
other things, not so eye appealing, that effectively have sealed
certain sections for access via the cliffs. This is probably not
something that would be desired over on the West side cause as I say
it is not that eye appealing. They can be sealed once and for all
but it will take back filling them from the farthest point inside all
the way to the outside floor to ceiling with concrete or something
similar.
Should they be opened and used as a tourist attraction? Again
several things need to be known, but what many do not know is that as
you get near the West side of the High Bridge near the river, you
will find that many businesses have utilized some of the caves as
places to do business. Obviously they can, or at least some can, be
made safe to use.
Thus it could be assumed that some of these caves could be made safe
enough to be a tourist attraction. Again this is gonna cost money
too. Cleaning them out, making them safe, figuring out the history
of each particular cave, tour guides, etc... I am also sure that
there are many caves that this simply will not work. On the other
hand I think that there are enough of them that it would make a good
attraction to the Harriet Island area.
All you have to do is head about 10 minutes into WI and you see signs
for the Crystal Caves (?) a cave complex that well is less
interesting than this could be (I mean we had lots of BIG TIME
criminals that used these caves). Marketed properly you would have
people coming to St Paul, City of the Caves, just to spend $10 to
take a tour of some holes in the ground. Another example of what a
hole in the ground can do is up in Sudan MN... about 1500 person town
(on the way to Ely) with an old Iron Mine that the parks department
run tours through (I think it is a federal or state park). But each
of these places seem to attract enough visitors to keep them open.
Not to mention the little tourist stands they sell T-shirts and other
assorted nick nacks at.
We should not rush to judgement on the caves of St Paul, they may
just be something worthy of taking advantage of, but it all depends
on a really good survey to find out what is where. Without doing
that, anything that is done, fill them or use them is an exercise in
futility.
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John Birrenbach
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