Dan Dobson said:  "I, for one, will never set foot in Mancini's
and Fabulous Ferns again. At least not while Nick
Mancini is alive and Charles Sinkler is involved with
Fern's. I think I will start to ask all
establishments, "Do you allow smoking" and if they do,
simply not patronize them."

Ah, isn't the free market wonderful!

Dennis Tester
Mac-Groveland



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Dobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "St. Paul Issues Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:59 PM
Subject: [StPaul] City Smoking Ban Vetoed - GEE THAT'S A BIG SURPRIZE !


> Big surprise that Kelly vetoed the second smoking ban.
> It addresses everyone of the concerns in his first
> veto and he still goes ahead and vetoes it. 
> 
> Where are those Kelly supporters who said that Mayor
> Kelly was promoting a regional-wide approach? Where is
> the regional approach now that Minneapolis and
> Bloomington and Saint Paul have different ordinances?
> 
> Please explain to us how feuding bars, every bar and
> restaurant, that wants smoking, will now say that 50%
> of their sales are from liquor, creates a regional
> solution. I, for one, will never set foot in Mancini's
> and Fabulous Ferns again. At least not while Nick
> Mancini is alive and Charles Sinkler is involved with
> Fern's. I think I will start to ask all
> establishments, "Do you allow smoking" and if they do,
> simply not patronize them.
> 
> Maybe after the election is done, we can gather a list
> of places that still allow smoking, or maybe the City
> should be required to publish such a list, so we know
> what places to avoid, as public health hazards.
> 
> Dan Dobson
> Summit Hill
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> --- List Manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > And now for something different.....
> > 
> >    :-)
> > 
> > Some "bad" news for smoking ban advocates and "good"
> > news as well.
> > Some "good" news for smoking ban opponents followed
> > by "bad" news.
> > 
> > - Mayor Kelly officially vetoed the St. Paul ban.
> > 
> > - But, Ramsey County appears on the verge of passing
> > a restaurant 
> > only ban that will affect St. Paul.
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Kelly vetoes St. Paul smoking ban
> > http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/9653188.htm
> > BY TIM NELSON
> > 
> > "St. Paul Mayor Randy Kelly this morning vetoed a
> > city-wide smoking 
> > ban, only hours before county commissioners are set
> > to ban smoking in 
> > restaurants across Ramsey County."
> > 
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