At 4:51 PM -0600 12/13/04, Kramer G. wrote:
A space of citizenship is a broad definition that I can manipulate to fit the space. Don't be shy about recommendations. It would include any area where people act in ways that effect a community to which they belong. (This COULD include certain bars, stores, places of worship, volunteer organizations, government buildings, etc.)

One way of thinking about these "spaces" of citizenship is to think about where people meet to deal with public issues, either formally or informally. Where are the popular meeting places that you might bump into other civic leaders.


I've come to learn, that the Swede Hollow Cafe, on the east side is a real meeting ground for "east siders." Other places that I've "bumped into" civic leaders while holding informal meetings of my own, include:

  * The Louisiana Cafe (Dale & Selby)
  * Meeting rooms above Mississippi Market (Dale & Selby)
  * Bread & Chocolate (Victoria & Grand)
  * Day by Day Cafe (West 7th)
  * Gingko's Coffee Shop (Snelling & Minnehaha)
  * Swede Hollow Cafe
  * Old Man River Cafe (West St. Paul)

I'd also suggest that the RenBox building in downtown St. Paul is a very interesting "space" of citizenship. It hosts many interesting downtown cultural and civic events.

Outside of city hall, where does our civic business get done....?

This is an interesting question. Thanks to Kramer for raising it. I hope that he will share some of the offline answers that he gets.

Hopefully, others will contribute ideas. I think that the results of this discussion will be of interest to lots of people on this list.

Best wishes,

Tim Erickson
Hamline Midway
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