There is a drug store meeting in the back of Schneider Drug Store on
University Avenue across from the KSTP studios.  I think there is a
monthly issues meeting that has gone on there for years.  Not certain what
day of the month it usually occurs.

I think that Black Bear Crossing at the Como Lake Pavillion always has a
lot of political types meeting ad hoc, almost anytime you walk in there. 
They have meeting rooms as well.

Also, there many of coffee houses at Public Libraries (when they have
them)  Borders Books at the Midway Center has a coffee house that always
has interesting people meeting and discussing things.

Don't underestimate the neighborhood churches either.   Our church just
had about a one month history of the history of Christianity in America
and how it has shaped politics in our country.  Very thought provoking and
interesting.

Pam Ellison
Como Park
Saint Paul



> At 4:51 PM -0600 12/13/04, Kramer G. wrote:
>>A space of citizenship is a broad definition that I can manipulate
>>to fit the space. Don't be shy about recommendations. It would
>>include any area where people act in ways that effect a community to
>>which they belong. (This COULD include certain bars, stores, places
>>of worship, volunteer organizations, government buildings, etc.)
>
> One way of thinking about these "spaces" of citizenship is to think
> about where people meet to deal with public issues, either formally
> or informally. Where are the popular meeting places that you might
> bump into other civic leaders.
>
> I've come to learn, that the Swede Hollow Cafe, on the east side is a
> real meeting ground for "east siders." Other places that I've "bumped
> into" civic leaders while holding informal meetings of my own,
> include:
>
>    * The Louisiana Cafe (Dale & Selby)
>    * Meeting rooms above Mississippi Market (Dale & Selby)
>    * Bread & Chocolate (Victoria & Grand)
>    * Day by Day Cafe (West 7th)
>    * Gingko's Coffee Shop (Snelling & Minnehaha)
>    * Swede Hollow Cafe
>    * Old Man River Cafe (West St. Paul)
>
> I'd also suggest that the RenBox building in downtown St. Paul is a
> very interesting "space" of citizenship. It hosts many interesting
> downtown cultural and civic events.
>
> Outside of city hall, where does our civic business get done....?
>
> This is an interesting question. Thanks to Kramer for raising it. I
> hope that he will share some of the offline answers that he gets.
>
> Hopefully, others will contribute ideas. I think that the results of
> this discussion will be of interest to lots of people on this list.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tim Erickson
> Hamline Midway
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