popman wrote:
"I suspect that the "rights issues" are just another republican distraction."
Yup, those civil rights sure are inconvenient to have to deal with, aren't they? Believe it or not, you have no Constitutional right to breath clean air, especially when you are choosing where you are breathing it. Just like I have no right to expect clean water if I choose to go swimming at the waste treatment plant. Caveat Emptor pal.
The bullies in this drama aren't the truck drivers and factory workers who want to have a legal smoke with their after-work beer, it's the bureaucrats and self-appointed social engineers who are.
Dennis Tester Mac-Groveland
----- Original Message ----- From: "popman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [StPaul] Re: Smoking ban ...al la : Mr. Repke.
I just had to make some observations in Mr. Repke's post. You will find them bracketed.
I know that we stray from the City focus on this but again you are absolutely correct on the conservative philosophy. If I run a bar and water down the drinks, to bad let the buyer beware. If I serve spoiled meat, let the buyer beware. If I want to smoke and it makes you ill, to bad I can do what I damn well please. All of these things are regulated because we live in a civilization. The purpose of law is to protect those who need protection from those who would exploit or hurt them.
[ Please .these things are NOT regulated because we live in a "civilization". They are regulated because we live under a system of predatory capitalism. The success of capitalism, in part, DEPENDS on the hoodwinking of the unsuspecting public. We don't have a civilization. If capitalists WERE civil, we wouldn't need these "protection laws" in the first place. ]
The purpose of democracy is to ensure at least some liberties for the powerless, and I am afraid those who fear taxation, regulation and litigation probably can do a pretty good job of protecting themselves.
[We don't live in democracy. We live in a private sector aristocracy that masquerades as a representative democracy. Money is a big ol' reason why we don't have a ban in St. Paul. I suspect that the "rights issues" are just another republican distraction.]
The smoking ban that is happening throughout the country one city and one state at a time is a movement of people who are tired of bullies deciding there right to smoke is higher than someone else's right to breath.
[Why should we have to depend on a movement of the people? We are suppose to be electing leaders that use common sense and do what they're suppose to do.which is to LEAD US.
A public smoking ban is something that should have been passed on the simply the basis of common sense without having to re-evaluated the state constitution.
I would also like to humbly remind you that I do know republicans and your right...they ARE bullies! One has to deal with them the way one always deals with bullies. Believe me, it's the only way to deal with 'em. Our grandfathers knew that when they took to the streets in the labor riots of past. It was our grandfathers and our fathers that got us our rights and not the military. The local military was on the side of the aristocrats.remember?]
Just My Opinion not Those Of My Employers Past Present Or Future
Chuck Repke W 7th
Rowdy Russ Hanson. The Truth in St. Paul.
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