And just what kind of society does capitalism build when one has to be "aware" of possible dangers lurking around every turn. It's a sick society / or at least an undereducated one, that allows it. When a society is cooperative instead of competitive, a whole different attitude would prevail that would remove those dangers that we all must be "aware" of.
By the way, did you know that the term "Caveat Emptor" is the first thing you learn when you study capitalist economics? When I did it, it was written in italics! No...we don't have those constitutional rights to clean air or clean water and the reason why could be that the founding fathers were all pro-business. Capitalists, if you will. They didn't care about anything or anybody but themselves and the preservation of their own wealth. In fact, the celebrated term: "We, the People", DID NOT apply to the citizens originally. What the fathers were talking about were themselves and people like them or in other words, the wealthy. In fact, the whole constitution was written with the idea of preservation of wealth. Notice that there was no individual income tax demanded. The constitution was also written to protect business contracts. The bill of rights, which I think that your referring to, was included to bribe the states for ratification. Today, even republicans agree, the document is just a shell. It should be discarded and used to light Fidel's cigar :=) Today we have much better writers and with the power of hindsight in effect, a much better document could be written and enjoyed by all. Rowdy Russ Hanson. The Truth in St. Paul. --- Dennis Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > popman wrote: > "I suspect that the "rights issues" are just another > republican > distraction." > > Yup, those civil rights sure are inconvenient to > have to deal with, aren't > they? Believe it or not, you have no Constitutional > right to breath clean > air, especially when you are choosing where you are > breathing it. Just like > I have no right to expect clean water if I choose to > go swimming at the > waste treatment plant. Caveat Emptor pal. > > The bullies in this drama aren't the truck drivers > and factory workers who > want to have a legal smoke with their after-work > beer, it's the bureaucrats > and self-appointed social engineers who are. > > > Dennis Tester > Mac-Groveland > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "popman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:25 AM > Subject: [StPaul] Re: Smoking ban ...al la : Mr. > Repke. > > > > > > I just had to make some observations in Mr. > Repke's > > post. You will find them bracketed. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that we stray from the City focus on this > but > > again you are > > absolutely > > correct on the conservative philosophy. If I run > a > > bar and water down > > the > > drinks, to bad let the buyer beware. If I serve > > spoiled meat, let the > > buyer > > beware. If I want to smoke and it makes you ill, > to > > bad I can do what > > I damn > > well please. All of these things are regulated > > because we live in a > > civilization. The purpose of law is to protect > those > > who need > > protection from those who > > would exploit or hurt them. > > > > [ Please .these things are NOT regulated because > we > > live in a "civilization". They are regulated > because > > we live under a system of predatory capitalism. > The > > success of capitalism, in part, DEPENDS on the > > hoodwinking of the unsuspecting public. We don't > have > > a civilization. If capitalists WERE civil, we > wouldn't > > need these "protection laws" in the first place. ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The purpose of democracy is to ensure at > > least > > some liberties for the powerless, and I am afraid > > those who fear > > taxation, > > regulation and litigation probably can do a pretty > > good job of > > protecting > > themselves. > > > > > > [We don't live in democracy. We live in a private > > sector aristocracy that masquerades as a > > representative democracy. Money is a big ol' > reason > > why we don't have a ban in St. Paul. I suspect > that > > the "rights issues" are just another republican > > distraction.] > > > > The smoking ban that is happening throughout the > > country one city and > > one > > state at a time is a movement of people who are > tired > > of bullies > > deciding there > > right to smoke is higher than someone else's right > to > > breath. > > > > > > [Why should we have to depend on a movement of the > > people? We are suppose to be electing leaders that > use > > common sense and do what they're suppose to > do.which > > is to LEAD US. > > > > A public smoking ban is something that should have > > been passed on the simply the basis of common > sense > > without having to re-evaluated the state > constitution. > > > > > > I would also like to humbly remind you that I do > know > > republicans and your right...they ARE bullies! One > has > > to deal with them the way one always deals with > > bullies. Believe me, it's the only way to deal > with > > 'em. Our grandfathers knew that when they took to > the > > streets in the labor riots of past. It was our > > grandfathers and our fathers that got us our > rights > > and not the military. The local military was on > the > > side of the aristocrats.remember?] > > > > Just My Opinion not Those Of My Employers Past > Present > > Or Future > > > > Chuck Repke > > W 7th > > > > > > Rowdy Russ Hanson. > > The Truth in St. Paul. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > > Yahoo! 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