Dave Thune wrote:


I'm officially neutral until after the dfl endorses for the mayor's
race, but I really have to jump in here and defend Chris Coleman's
record on GSE.


I'm not.

1. The GSE debacle started before Chris took office. In my last few days
on the Council we heard thru the grapevine that Minnesota Brewing was
talking to state officials about adding ethanol production to increase
the brewery's capacity and ensure the future of beer production in W
7th. I set up a mtg with Chris and Minnesota Brewing's Jack Lee to get
Chris up to speed.
Both of us were assured that ethanol production would not ruin beer
sales, the plant would not explode and it might have a small odor of
baking bread while in production. Jack invited neighbors to a rural
plant to see and smell for themselves


must have missed my invetation

2. Many neighbors including myself as a civilian/ex elected official at
first believed and placed our trust in local and state pollution control
officials to protect us. I believe Chris was in this category.  Others
were skeptics and were proven right!  The state had no interest in
protecting us from the "smell of jobs". A whole bunch of us were wrong,
however I doubt very much that even a united front at the early stages
could have prevented GSE from opening and starting production.



since for the first nine months the plant was operating they were so noisey they violated OSHA (ocup safter health asso) levels for unprotected hearing for near by residents, saying that the plant couldn't be shut down at that point or any of the 9 months along the was is very disengenous, or very misinformed Dave.

3. I saw Chris taking action when it became obvious that we had been
duped - and this was pretty early on.  Unfortunately, laws protecting
big business and flacid support from the state's PCA prevented the city
from shutting down ethanol production. I also saw Chris's frustration
with being blamed for the whole thing when I knew that his action was
limited by lack of city technology and legal and city attorney's
positions which don't allow for a city councilman just to walk over and
pull the plug on a business.



please let Chris and any other member of the city council, mayor past and present explain why they kept passing ambush agenda items regarding out of court settlements with GSE, never once actualy requiring them to obey the law.

4. Once we did set a course though for using the public nuisance laws to
declare odor a nuisance and prove that there was more pollution coming
out of the plant than the state would admit, Chris was consistantly on
the neighborhood's side, working to stop the production of ethanol at
GSE.



Still dening the Noise issue I see. It took over 2000 signatures on pettitions for chris to even thing the plant stunk.

Hindsight is deceptive. It may be convenient now, to blame Chris Coleman
for GSE but it isn't fair. The heroes were the folks who were early
skeptics and sued as CASE (thankyou Diane, Terese, Andy and all the
others...), but Chris acted as aggressively as an elected official could
possibly act once it was apparent we had all been deceived. One might
wish that our state elected officials had been as aggressive in
supporting our cause.


And after 4 years of never meeting and or exceeding the city, county, state noise limits for residential property the great city of St. Paul could not prove chronic noise violations against GSE. (please some first year law student look up any special legal menaing for the word chronic)

In hindsight I'd love to take credit for closing the plant because it
happened during my term of office but I can't. It was because of CASE,
dedicated neighbors and determined legal action by the city AND Chris
Coleman, that meeting court ordered emission standards forced GSE out of
business.



Don't worry Dave I wouldn't let you get away with it.

dave thune
predecessor and sucessor of chris coleman
city council, St. Paul
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So which one oth the current mayoral canadates do you think will do a good job trying to abate the noise from the where gonna expand hollman field airport wether you want it or not. Can MAC (met airport comm) be trusted more than GSE to live up to its promises. Will we have the leadership on the council, or in the mayors office to control the new noise maker, when the city of St. Paul did nothing about the noise from GSE even though it was a hundred times louder than MAC standards 24/7/365

Arno A. Karner aka (behind the muffs)
West 7th St. < 300 ft. NNW of GSE (wonder is their any investigative journalist left in minnesota)


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