On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> From: TENEBRAE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:44:21 -0700
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Stratalist-ot] Re: What happens if Obama is elected?
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> > On Oct 13, 2008, at 12:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > > Obama and Ayers were much closer than you want others to believe.
> > > You may find their association acceptable and it may even comfort
> > > you in some way. But, a great number of Americans may find it
> > > disturbing. There is no good reason for one hoping to ascend to the
> > > highest office in the land to associate himself with Bill Ayers,
> > > unless ... what?
> >
> > <http://www.newsweek.com/id/163396>
> >
> > I'll believe factcheck.org and the other folks who have objectively
> > vetted the Obama/Ayers relationship (or lack thereof), before I
> > believe some rabid, right wing shill like yourself or Stanley Kuntz.
> >       -W
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> We're taliking about something different here, Wilbur.


i think he prefers will..not frances.

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> Did Obama have any association with Bill Ayers or not?


in a word, yes, but this was after his actions of 40 years ago, and attempts
by neocons to brand obama as a terrorist by it, is asinine and has no basis
in reality.
 if nixon, reagan, north,mccain et al can be pardoned/released from their
guilt, certainly someone like ayers can be rehabilitated and move on to be a
productive member of the society[he sought to change]...what our society
isn't about [equal] forgiveness?

and despite what is regurgitated by hate spewing righties, ayers has
apologised about his former actions.



> Did Obama have any association with ACORN or not?
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> Does the American electorate have a right to know about those associations,
> or not?


yes they do, but also, let's LOOK at those POW records of mccain's...shall
we?...FAIR, right?




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> If you answer "no" to any of those questions, then there's nothing a
> reasonable person can discuss with you.
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depends on the "discusser", now don't it...
; ^)

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