Vic, I'm sure you're a great developer. I know you've been a great advocate for Struts. I haven't even said you are wrong. Just that you choose your forums inappropriately and you put your arguments in a way that seems rambling and paranoid. It's hard to even *understand* your postings, let alone have any sympathy for them.
You've been spreading FUD which is at best distracting and at worst harmful to the Struts/Apache communities. This has continued despite *many* requests for you to stop (or at least address the correct forum). I don't see why you would expect any support from the community you are attacking. Steve BTW. Your book is still prominently listed on the Struts welcome page. And it's Machiavellian. > -----Original Message----- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vic Cekvenich > Sent: November 13, 2003 2:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/resources archives.xml > consultants.xml powered.xml sigs.xml > > > There are many people that criticized Struts, saying > Barracuda is better > that Struts; or JSF is better than Struts, etc. What a PITA. > > The issue I raised was not a Struts issue, but a Political issue on a > different list. If you are Democrat, then Republicans are a > PITA, it be > easier if there were just no Republican sites (or the other > way around, > depending on you POV). So this has little to do with Struts! > > But ... if you want to discuss or judge the merits of “my” > politics on > this on this list, there is a tangent you can draw. There is a change > that Apache SF is copying a design, > ( http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101419 ) > and according to the archive of “Elba.sf.net” the plans is > to, quote: > "Think of Elba (jBoss code) as a latticework for Geronimo--and as a > shield to buffer the Geronimo codebase and CVS repository > from any LGPL > code. As Geronimo is built, its code will replace the code from Elba" > (end quote) > So my reading comprehension says: They will take jBoss design, and > refractor it, and PMC went along with this, a mistake I > think. What PITA! > So what is the tangent to Apache Open Source projects, > developers and users? > This is: I spend 30% of my time “selling” Apache open source > technology > to business, that it is a safe platform to be on. If there is a > precedent that Apache open source developers are capable or > inclined to > use a legal loophole, and that they could/would refractor a > design of a > client’s application, it would make it harder for ALL of us > in the open > source community to get gigs. What a PITA that would be! > > But don’t go with the selfish Makaveli-an above, if one sees > a bunch of > kids beating up a girl, it be a PITA to help her, so much easier to > cross the street. Well… for better or worse, I did not cross > the street! > > .V > > ps: ah… support open source? > > > Steve Raeburn wrote: > > The committers of the Struts project are entrusted by the Apache > > Foundation to determine the content of the Struts portion of the > > website. None of us has objected to Craig's update, > probably because > > we've all grown tired of Vic being a PITA. (Incidentally > he's always a > > PITA about non-technical, POLITICAL issues.) > > > > It's done. Hopefully, Vic will get the message that nobody > here wants to > > listen to his ramblings and we can all move on with the > development of > > Struts and leave the conspiracy theories behind. > > > > Steve > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
