== Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: 'Wes Bramhall '; ''Struts Users Mailing List' '
> Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
>
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wes Bramhall
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Sent: 2/22/02 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net
>
> But it's Friday now, so SSS is allowed, right?
>
> (SSS = Small Scale Spamming)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
>
>
> I thought we had abandoned this thread in favor of Struts related
> questions
> =)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
>
>
> > I'm staying out of this discussion, but to answer your question --
> >
> > IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion
> >
> > --David
> >
> > On Friday 22 February 2002 01:03 pm, you wrote:
> > > IMNSHO? What the hell is that? Man, the colloquial shortcuts are
> getting
> > > hairy these days.... :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Edward Q. Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:15 AM
> > > To: dIon Gillard; Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
> > >
> > >
> > > "location independence" means independent of location,
> that is all.
> > >
> > > if you're implementing two interfaces to do (more or
> less) the exact
> same
> > > thing, and one is called "local" and one is called
> "remote" that is
> > > absolutely *not*, by any stretch of the imagination, "location
> > > independent". _end of story_.
> > >
> > > with EJBs the method call does not "appear" to be remote,
> because it
> is
> > > *explicitly* remote. the method is in a "RemoteInterface" and
> throws a
> > > "RemoteException" for crying out loud!
> > >
> > > furthermore, it's not about box1 vs box12. to be more
> precise, it's
> about
> > > vm1 vs. vm12. and, if you are writing a client, your client has
> business
> > > logic to take care of. it's the servers responsibility
> to determine
> > > whether it should call a method at vm1 or at vm12.
> > >
> > > IMNSHO, this is the achilles heel of EJB.
> > >
> > > --e--
> > >
> > > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:24:22 +1100, dIon Gillard wrote:
> > > >The method call can take place anywhere, but always appears to be
> > > >remote. That could be many remote machines though. Location
> independence
> > > >is not about local vs remote, it's more about box1 vs box12.
> >
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